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RV towable sales slowing?

Dealer Poll: New Towable Inventories Too High
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December 29, 2018 by RVBusiness Leave a Comment

Editor’s Note: The following report by Recreation Vehicle Dealers Association (RVDA) Director of Industry Relations Jeff Kurowski, appearing in the December issue of RV Executive Today, breaks down results from a recent Baird dealer sentiment survey.

Dealers surveyed late in October said their new towable RV inventories were too high, while their used towable inventories were balanced, according to Robert W. Baird & Co., the Milwaukee-based investment firm that surveys dealers quarterly in partnership with RVDA.

The Baird firm feels dealers’ belief that their towable inventories were too large was fueled by the desire they have each year to reduce inventories during the fourth quarter. Higher interest rates also were a factor. As one dealer wrote, “There is too much inventory on dealers’ lots. We have to get better inventory turns to make money, as our profits have been interest rates, we can’t afford to stock what we once did.”

Another dealer added, “I’m hoping the industry is just catching its breath after some very strong years. I still expect 2019 to be very good – consumer confidence is high and the local economy strong – all should offset higher costs and interest rates.”

Dealers surveyed in late October said they had a 120-day supply of towables, compared with 114 days in late July and 114 days in October 2017.

Commenting on retail demand for towables during the August through October period, one dealer wrote, “I’m not sure what happened this fall; it started to slow in August and never re-gained momentum.” Another said, “I had a record August- October last year, but this year was about the same as 2016, so it was a bit disappointing.”

Tet another dealer reported his towable unit volume is up 7 percent, but his gross sales revenue is up only 4 percent, due to a shift in the product mix to smaller and lower- priced trailers. Another dealer said, “We continue to see weakness in stick and tin. Margins are stressed. The selling point that works is under $20,000, but the unit needs to be 28 to 30 feet. We are dumping at any cost; the gap between fiberglass walls and stick and tin is closer than in the past. Customers are comparing floor plans more than exteriors or unit class.”

In the motorized sector, dealers estimated their days supply was 119 days as of late October, which was lower than 127 days in late July and 129 days as of October 2017. But one motorhome dealer reported that “higher interest rates are negatively effecting overall business and are the reason for flat sales for new units and a big increase in sales of used.”

Another dealer said that Class As are “questionable in our market today, but Class Cs are still doing well.” Yet another reported, “The price point is changing – we’re selling more gas to diesel and seeing a good turn on diesel Class Bs when we can get them.”

30 Replies

  • old guy wrote:
    I don't think the generation coming up has been given the thrill of camping and so no interest in it. and new TT's are not freebies


    The post-millenial generation isn't really of rv buying age yet, assuming they were born in the mid nineties and early 2000s.

    The millennials in their 30s are busy working 60+ hour weeks and only have 7 to 10 days PTO a year, so camping probably isn't a high priority.

    Gen X or whatever we're calling post-boomer bought RVs already, and/or are busy competing with millennials for those crummy office jobs.
  • SidecarFlip wrote:
    Market has reached a saturation point for one and the quality versus the asking prices don't jive today. I have this feeling that the RV industry is about to go bust.

    Kids today don't want to go camping, they want to play video games, eat fast food and whine.

    BSA attests to that. Looking at going bankrupt from lack of membership.


    I think that's a generalized statement. My kids (grown) and their kids (Our grandkids) love camping.
    I know what you're saying though. Our GK's do love their video games. But also love camping and boating. Too many choices for kids these days. They all play sports as well.
    Honestly though I think a couple of them would love to play video games camping. Good thing their parents say no to that.
    One grandson has been in BS as long as I can remember. His brother could care less. Go figure.
  • Market facts. sooner or later. Every one that wants a RV will have one. Yes people will trade up, and there will be a few new users. But is has to top out somewhere. Just like trucks, and cars. They too are toping out. RVs last longer, as do vehicles. And something else to think about. Many younger, and first timers are finding it less expensive to buy a MotorHome, rather than a truck, and TT. Most mid range MHs are less expensive than a TV, and TT combined.

    As for me. I HOPE to have bought not only the last TT I will ever have, but the last Truck, and car as well.
  • old guy wrote:
    I don't think the generation coming up has been given the thrill of camping and so no interest in it. and new TT's are not freebies


    Camping in a RV park is a thrill? Surely you jest.
  • Market has reached a saturation point for one and the quality versus the asking prices don't jive today. I have this feeling that the RV industry is about to go bust.

    Kids today don't want to go camping, they want to play video games, eat fast food and whine.

    BSA attests to that. Looking at going bankrupt from lack of membership.
  • I don't think the generation coming up has been given the thrill of camping and so no interest in it. and new TT's are not freebies
  • Every RV dealer I've passed on the road recently seemed to be over stuffed with inventory. Lots of towables and lots of class c "Winnebago type" rvs, not so much a.
  • This tracks exactly with what I saw when delivering RV's (trailers) for Horizon Transport and the Industry press I have read.

    The takeaway here of course is this is the perfect time to drive a hard bargain for a TT or 5th wheel.

    Of course anyone who has traveled across this country and seen for themselves the multitude of RV Dealers who have literally hundreds of units on their lots. That is just not sustainable. Right here in Tucson for instance there is a cluster of dealers in S. Tucson all in the same two block area and each has between 100 to over 250 units on their lots...most of them 2018's

    The first question I ask anytime I go looking for a new trailer, and asked in an offhand way, is: " How many units do you have on your lot"

    They often don't want to answer this but I find a way to ask again before I am willing to talk about specific units. The answer I have gotten most times was between 200 to 400.

    This level of inventory is a huge financial burden on them and when I ask that, then I follow up with my guess about how much money that represents... I am usually very close.

    This puts them in a disadvantageous position when I start to negotiate. (I am currently looking for a 40+ft 5th wheel)

    So if you want a trailer especially a larger one get out there now.

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