RV`s with low CCC

dahkota wrote:
For Open Range, the CCC is the gross vehicle weight minus the unloaded vehicle weight, the full fresh water weight, and the full propane tank weight.

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Bingo. That explains it.

This is arbitrary but I figure a trailer should have a minimum of 2000# of CCC. One of the things I liked about our present TT was the 4000# CCC.

tatest wrote:
You will find low carrying capacities particularly on "ultralight" towables. The designers shave parts sizes everywhere to keep weight down, frame and suspension is part of that. Also in that market, there is a tendency for the buyer to look at GVWR as the towing weight, thus GVWR has to be kept down to sell a trailer as lightweight.

This is especially true with trailers aimed at the minivan/CUV market.
they all have GVWR's of the magical 3500lbs., which is the most common towing capacities of these vehicles.
Some will have actual CCC's of around 200lbs., after deducting the weights of stuff not included in the brochure "dry" weight. Like awning, oven, spare tire, a/c, battery and so on.
and these are trailers aimed at families, whose stuff will certainly exceed 200lbs.

We have a 2 year old Rockwood 8289 5 th wheel and have used it for 160 days. It has a low CCC and we have learned we do not need to pack heavy and we don't lack for anything. Much easier to find something if you need it.

You will find low carrying capacities particularly on "ultralight" towables. The designers shave parts sizes everywhere to keep weight down, frame and suspension is part of that. Also in that market, there is a tendency for the buyer to look at GVWR as the towing weight, thus GVWR has to be kept down to sell a trailer as lightweight.

Motorized RVs end up with low CCC simply because the manufacturer is building too big of an RV for the chassis. C's are kind of stuck with their 14,000-14,500 chassis, but even going up to 16,000-19,500 in a Super C, they would again build too big a house, sometimes to within 1000 pounds or less of chassis capacity. It happens again when they try to put 38 feet of house on a 26,000 diesel pusher chassis, rather than going up to the 33,000 chassis.

For Open Range, the CCC is the gross vehicle weight minus the unloaded vehicle weight, the full fresh water weight, and the full propane tank weight.

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Open Range rates their trailers in a different way. None of it makes sense to me.
They have a gross CCC and a net CCC. That 5th has a 14,000 GVW. A dry weight of 11,395lbs. 14,000-11,395=2605lbs. On the web site they list the gross CCC @2905lbs and a net CCC @2119lbs. Neither are close to the normal way to figure.

The 1360lb number from the mag could be the 2119lbs minus the optional patio feature. But that seems like a lot @759lbs for an aluminum patio. Maybe not. But why the gross CCC and net CCC on the site? 99% of brand web sites have the CCC as the dry weight subtracted from the GVW.

I have seen low CCC on Class C and Class A, especially the 31 foot Class C. Surprising to see such a low capacity on a 5th-wheel or a trailer of any sort where there are no mechanical elements to stress the chassis.

Even very small 5th wheels such as Scamp or Casita have much more capacity.

What is "CCC" ?

Jack L