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NanciL
Explorer II
Oct 31, 2017

Sales agreement

A month ago we decided to buy a particular new trailer from a dealer, but they had to order it from the factory since the only one they had on the lot was already sold.
The dealer is a long distance from us, so we did all the bickering and bantering in regards to pricing and extras via e-mail, and we gave a 5k deposit.
Yesterday we got the schedule when it would leave the plant, when it would arrive, etc but they said they would want full payment before it left the plant.
That was fine with us, but I said I would hold back an amount until after I did the PDI and took delivery.
They agreed and sent a purchase agreement with the various items and then the final cost and we were to send a check for the amount.

My wife was just about to write the check when she discovered that in their addition they made a $2000 mistake in our favor.
Needless to say, I had the devil on one shoulder, and the good angel on my other shoulder
The good angel won out and now we are waiting to hear back from the dealer.
I just hope the trailer isn't a lemon like our last one!

Jack L
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  • bucky's avatar
    bucky
    Explorer II
    Nov 01, 2017
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    The $2000 "mistake" may be a gimmick to reel you in. Some might jump on that and pay and then say "we had a deal". Your honesty may have saved you. No way would I pay upfront at this price point. A special order part at Autozone sure, but not a big ticket item.
    The large deposit is another issue but too late for that now.
    Hope all goes well and you can enjoy your new RV.
  • Lantley's avatar
    Lantley
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    Nov 01, 2017
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    tracyb-oh wrote:
    Trick to it is you have to be prepared to walk away from the deal if it starts to feel wrong.


    I agree with this^^^^^.
  • p220sigman's avatar
    p220sigman
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    Nov 01, 2017
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    Slightly different, but just talked with a family member who custom-ordered a car trailer for a race car. They paid the deposit and dealer kept them informed of the progress of the order/build and requested the balance. Family member refused until delivery. After many months and may updates from the dealer than the trailer was just about done, would be shipped next week, etc., family member contacted the builder directly to find out they had his order, but had not started it because the dealer owed them for a number of trailers that had already been delivered.

    Long story short, the dealer was ripping people off. Fortunately (if you can say that), family member is "only" out 2K. Builder told family member he had talked with about 10 other people in the same boat including a number who had paid the full amount. Clearly law enforcement is involved at this point and the family member may get his 2K back at some point, but it won't be soon.

    Never pay in full for a big ticket item until you can inspect it and take delivery.
  • tracyb-oh's avatar
    tracyb-oh
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    Nov 01, 2017
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    Years ago when we got our first TT, the dealer we were working with told us about a unit he had “on order” and he was offering it to us first. We liked the model and the floor plan so we said yes. Gave them a good faith deposit of $500. Took about 2 months or so for it to come in. We got the occasional phone call from them asking for the balance before delivery. Each time I said I would take care of it when I see the unit in person when it arrived. They kept asking and I just kept saying no. When the unit arrived, we were very happy with it, we did the paperwork and paid the balance. Just stand firm. You hold all the cards at this point. Trick to it is you have to be prepared to walk away from the deal if it starts to feel wrong.
  • Lantley's avatar
    Lantley
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    Nov 01, 2017
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    as others have stated I would not pay in full up front. If they won't accept payment until after you are satisfied with PDI simply find another dealer.
  • McKannick's avatar
    McKannick
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    Nov 01, 2017
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    Yeah that pay before you see it game, that's not happening with me. Scammed too many times, seen too many others get burned as well. IF they gave me a reasonable timeline for the thing to show from the factory, I would consider a deposit if there was no negative feedback on the dealer out there on the internet.
  • 2DHoop's avatar
    2DHoop
    Explorer II
    Oct 31, 2017
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    I would think that all the details of the order and purchase to include your responsibilities as it relates to the transaction would be worked out before the order to build was placed and not negotiated along-the-way. Is the 5000 up front determined within a written policy?

    But things as they are based upon your expalaination, and as others have mentioned, I would not front anymore money until the rig is on the lot and ready for inspection.

    Does this dealer have previous complaints or reviews that would reflect negatively on their ability to deliver or handle their business with integrity?

    Let us know how this turns out....I’m sure your good karma with being honest about the accounting error will help out if needed.
    :)
  • fj12ryder's avatar
    fj12ryder
    Explorer III
    Oct 31, 2017
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    Yeah, we put $1000 down on ours and went to Knoxville, Tennessee to check it out and pick it up. That was to hold it until we could get there to see it. We understood from the get-go that it was a non-refundable deposit. Luckily the 5th wheel was as we had expected, they fixed all the problems, nothing major, and we paid them.

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Some might jump on that and pay and then say \"we had a deal\". Your honesty may have saved you. No way would I pay upfront at this price point. A special order part at Autozone sure, but not a big ticket item.
The large deposit is another issue but too late for that now.
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The large deposit is another issue but too late for that now.
Hope all goes well and you can enjoy your new RV.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2820742_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:36774":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:36774","uid":36774,"login":"Lantley","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-08-23T20:47:10.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:36774"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2820741":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2820741","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2820741":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36774"},"id":"message:2820741","revisionNum":1,"uid":2820741,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2820717"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2820717"},"subject":"Re: Sales agreement","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2820741"},"body":"
tracyb-oh wrote:
Trick to it is you have to be prepared to walk away from the deal if it starts to feel wrong.


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tracyb-oh wrote:
Trick to it is you have to be prepared to walk away from the deal if it starts to feel wrong.


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Long story short, the dealer was ripping people off. Fortunately (if you can say that), family member is \"only\" out 2K. Builder told family member he had talked with about 10 other people in the same boat including a number who had paid the full amount. Clearly law enforcement is involved at this point and the family member may get his 2K back at some point, but it won't be soon.

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Long story short, the dealer was ripping people off. Fortunately (if you can say that), family member is \"only\" out 2K. Builder told family member he had talked with about 10 other people in the same boat including a number who had paid the full amount. Clearly law enforcement is involved at this point and the family member may get his 2K back at some point, but it won't be soon.

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We liked the model and the floor plan so we said yes. Gave them a good faith deposit of $500. Took about 2 months or so for it to come in. We got the occasional phone call from them asking for the balance before delivery. Each time I said I would take care of it when I see the unit in person when it arrived. They kept asking and I just kept saying no. When the unit arrived, we were very happy with it, we did the paperwork and paid the balance. Just stand firm. You hold all the cards at this point. 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We liked the model and the floor plan so we said yes. Gave them a good faith deposit of $500. Took about 2 months or so for it to come in. We got the occasional phone call from them asking for the balance before delivery. Each time I said I would take care of it when I see the unit in person when it arrived. They kept asking and I just kept saying no. When the unit arrived, we were very happy with it, we did the paperwork and paid the balance. Just stand firm. You hold all the cards at this point. 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Is the 5000 up front determined within a written policy?

But things as they are based upon your expalaination, and as others have mentioned, I would not front anymore money until the rig is on the lot and ready for inspection.

Does this dealer have previous complaints or reviews that would reflect negatively on their ability to deliver or handle their business with integrity?

Let us know how this turns out....I’m sure your good karma with being honest about the accounting error will help out if needed.
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But things as they are based upon your expalaination, and as others have mentioned, I would not front anymore money until the rig is on the lot and ready for inspection.

Does this dealer have previous complaints or reviews that would reflect negatively on their ability to deliver or handle their business with integrity?

Let us know how this turns out....I’m sure your good karma with being honest about the accounting error will help out if needed.
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