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texasAUtiger
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Jul 31, 2015

Shaky towing experience, please advise

Just returned from a recent trip, comprised of three legs, each much longer than our previous trips.

Leg A: 275 miles, mostly on 4 lane divided highways through the Texas hill country. I ran 55-60 mph on average, rarely getting to 65. It was a windy day (30 mph) and there were a few times when the steering felt "slippery" or "light" on the front end (that's the best way I know to describe it). Overall I would say this was an okay-to-good towing experience.

Leg B: 350 miles, mostly on interstate (I-10) in moderate (15 mph?) winds. This was my first extended time towing on the interstate with a TT. I now know what "white knuckling" means! I began at my usual 55-60 mph and worked up to no more than 65 mph. The steering felt very light on the front end and slippery---like I was on ice or hydroplaning. When a tractor trailer truck would pass me, I wouldn't even need to look in the mirror to know when it was 10 ft off my left rear bumper: I could feel a strong pull then push as it came alongside me. I don't mean a small pull-push, I mean severe as if I might lose control. I slowed to 60 mph and this helped, but it was still uncomfortable. I had to slow to 50-55 to feel comfortable, and I don't believe I am a chicken driver. Thankfully, the last hour of our drive was in stop and go (but mostly go) traffic on a 4 lane divided highway running 50 mph at most. This was an extremely welcome relief compared to the previous 5+ hours.

Leg C: About 250 mi, 25 or so on interstate, the rest on 4 lane divided highway but wide open where the speed limit was 70 and 75 mph. The driving experience on this leg was similar to leg A, except on the interstate it was more like leg B. On the divided highways I could run 65 mph and felt comfortable although the push-pull occurred when a big rig would blow by at 75 or 80. I just learned to slow to 55 and scoot to the right of my lane before they reached me.

In all three trips, I had no trouble pulling or stopping or maneuvering the trailer whether in tight traffic or open spaces. I was pleased with the power of my 2011 F-150 Lariat with 5.0L V8, 6 speed transmission. I used Tow/Haul mode almost all the time, locking out 6th gear. The engine braking was very nice and useful in traffic.

So what I want to know is: is my experience normal? If not, what can I do to rectify the situation? The family and I loved the camping but hated leg B and disliked certain parts of leg A/C.

In case it matters, on leg A I had very little (maybe 5 gallons total) in my tanks. On leg B, I probably had 10 gallons total in my tanks. On leg C, I completely drained all my tanks and pushed all the weight I could to the front of the trailer.



On my way home, I stopped and weighed everything in order to get input from you all. This is what the CAT scales said:

TV+TT with WD bars in place:
Steer Axle 3260
Drive Axle 3840
Trailer Axle 5240
Gross Weight 12340
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TV+TT with WD bars removed (put in bed of truck):
Steer Axle 2780
Drive Axle 4300
Gross Weight 12160
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TV only
Steer Axle 3260
Drive Axle 3020
Trailer Axle 0
Gross Weight 6280
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According to this link, my rig has

TT weight: 5880
Tongue weight: 800
Tongue weight percentage: 13.8%
TV weight (hitched + WDH engaged): 7100

The door sticker of my truck says GVWR is 7100 lbs and the max weight of passengers and cargo should not exceed 1482 lbs.

My truck sits level when hitched and spring bars in place. I can post a wide angle sideshot if needed.


To reiterate: So what I want to know is: is my experience normal? If not, what can I do to rectify the situation? The family and I loved the camping but hated leg B and disliked certain parts of legs A and C.

Thanks so much for your help!

52 Replies

  • Need-A-Vacation wrote:

    What was the tire pressure of both the truck and trailer tires??? What tires are on the truck, p-rated car tires, or LT's???


    Tires were brand new Michelin LTX/S2 P275/55/R20. Standard (cold) inflation is 35 psi. I had them 35 front, 40 on back on leg A; then I increased them to 40 and 40 for legs B and C. I asked about LT tires when I got these, but they said they didn't have any for that size.

    Need-A-Vacation wrote:

    Any water in any of the tanks if behind the trailer axles?


    Leg A I had maybe 5 gallons total in gray+black tanks which sit behind the rear trailer axle. Leg B I had more, 10+ gallons. On leg C, I drained everything completely in an effort to eliminate that variable.

    In all three trips, I had zero water in the fresh tank (which is at the front of the TT).

    Need-A-Vacation wrote:

    Maybe YOUR trailer needs a little more tongue weight? It can vary between different models and manufactures, up to 15% or so for a stable tow.

    If your fresh water tank is in front of the trailer axles, maybe fill it at least 1/2 fill and take a drive to see how it is??? Couple members are very good at figuring the percentage that would be on the tongue if you give them the measurement from tongue to center of the tank, then center of the tank to the center of the trailer axles (middle between front and rear axles).


    Thanks, this is the kind of input I was looking for.

    PS As for the 180 lb gross weight discrepancy, I was standing outside the vehicle during all three weighs (so I could reach the call button) and I weigh 180lbs! Maybe I was standing slightly on the scale during the first weigh but slightly off the scale on the second one? That might explain it.

    My hitch is a Husky Centerline TS with 800-1,200 lb spring bars. This one does have WD + antisway. It was set up at the dealer for an empty trailer (whose dry weight is 5080 per the manufacturer).
  • Your weights seem ok, though the unlatched wd bar total weight is off some compared to total weight w/ wd bars latched up.... Hitch adjustment looks ok.... Husky Centerline- suppose to have built in sway control if it's the upper model as I understand.

    I figured 6,060lbs for the trailer, tw- 820lbs, about 13.5%.

    What was the tire pressure of both the truck and trailer tires??? What tires are on the truck, p-rated car tires, or LT's???

    Any water in any of the tanks if behind the trailer axles?

    Maybe YOUR trailer needs a little more tongue weight? It can vary between different models and manufactures, up to 15% or so for a stable tow.

    If your fresh water tank is in front of the trailer axles, maybe fill it at least 1/2 fill and take a drive to see how it is??? Couple members are very good at figuring the percentage that would be on the tongue if you give them the measurement from tongue to center of the tank, then center of the tank to the center of the trailer axles (middle between front and rear axles).