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KAYAKFISH
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Jun 30, 2013

Smoking wheels

Towing my 2012 26 ft. Jayco tt from Pa. to SC. After traveling @150 miles I stopped at a red light and a truck pulled up along side and the driver yells(YOUR WHEELS ARE SMOKING!) To make a long story short, we pull over and called Good Sam & they sent some one out.
The guy thinks it is a wheel bearing but the bearing looks good. He pulls the wheel and the brakes fall out, pieces of metal, brake shoes, springs, electric brakes. He replaces everything. He checks the other wheel on the same side,same thing. The adjustment screw came apart and jammed the brakes. The other side was okay. Has anyone else experience anything like this?
  • Sorry Barney...blocked that guy now and won't have to read nor tempted to respond again...

    you can remove my comments on this post...the OP deserves a decent answer but
    I'm done on this one
  • BenK wrote:
    Gdetrailer wrote:
    BenK wrote:
    Why I check the trailer brakes (how warm/hot, how they sound rolling to a stop,
    manually adjust the self adjusters, etc) at every stop

    Even carry rebuild kits and have had to rebuild them out there


    Now that is just plain silly...



    Okay, if you say so, but that is for you, not me





    I can not imagine that anyone is willing to tear apart or roll under the trailer and "adjust" the bakes manually.

    I would suggest that you stop this practice, rest stops, parking lots and the such are a TERRIBLE place to attempt these kinds of preventative maintenance items. It is an extremely dangerous to do this even while on level land without adding public traffic.



    Guess you never go to the places I do, so you are right for those
    places you visit that is correct, but again, not for me





    Your brakes even if you don't have auto adjusters WILL not require any adjustments to be done for 10,000-12,000 miles or one year. This IS the industry standard.



    Agree for 'some' vehicles and for
    the general folks out there and of which you must be...the fat part
    of that herd

    I am NOT part of that herd






    Adjusting them needlessly using the "inspection" hole only will wear out the shoes at a faster rate at the least and at the worst OVER TIGHTEN the shoes causing extreme heat and possible loss of brakes.



    Nope...not on the stuff I have or borrow...you must be buy cheap to
    have that kind of wear and tear

    Or your overly forcing, but you say you know HOW2...weird and goes
    back to most likely buying cheap






    The ONLY WAY to SAFELY "adjust" the brake shoes is to REMOVE the drum.


    Maybe for you, but I've never lost a finger nor got hurt using the
    shop manual's instructions to use that 'hole'






    Simply put, you want only a SLIGHT amount of "resistance" felt when removing the drum. The brakes should not drag on the drums very much, only VERY SLIGHTLY. There is no way you can perform that while using the inspection cover and not jacking up the wheel.



    I do jack that tire off pavement 'most' times. Can also adjust it
    without jacking it up and am perfectly good for that and must be your
    experience over tightening, but that is not needed by me

    Or that some trailers I borrow has the drum groved and doesn't come
    off that easily, but I don't manually adjust them by taking the drum
    off, so don't encounter that

    Or that putting back a drum that is groved, will have the only way
    to get the shoes right is to manually adjust. Lucky for you that
    you never have to work on a groved drum






    I have many years experience with drum brakes, cut my driving teeth on 1970s vehicles with DRUMS on ALL FOUR WHEELS. You learn in a hurry to ensure the front brakes are set CORRECTLY dead on EVEN, otherwise you WILL be pulled left or right when you stomp on the brakes...



    Ditto...decades of experience wrenching, but not for money but just
    because love anything automotive. Though did for money working as
    a mechanic paying for college...also a tire monkey at that tire
    dealership. Ranged from mud hen econo to super cars to hot rods.

    OBTW...cut my teeth on 50's era vehicles and designed industrial
    brakes from multi floating discs on the same shaft, to drum (but the
    shoes were not expanding but came in onto the drums external surface)
    One disc was 48" dia with 8 calipers on it (all designed my
    me...castings, calipers, the hydraulic system and the computer control system)

    Do you have a super tune regime for shoe/drums? You understand why
    some cut a slot in the friction material of shoes? While others have
    tried drilling holes in the drum and failed ?

    You know why parts wear a grove on the backing plate?

    You know OEMs moved away from shoe/drum? Or that some OEMs managed
    to have ABS tone rings on shoe/drums...while Detroit could not?




    Do you stop the whole setup with just the trailer brakes 'most' of
    the time in stop and go traffic?

    Oh well, guess you think no one else should have an opinion...


    :h

    Oh well, I guess I am just a poor back yard mechanic that don't know nothing..

    For some reason I seem to have no problem with brakes so I guess I will continue on the way I do it.

    You are more than welcome to continue on with your method.

    Potatoes, potaaatoes...

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