Tesla great looking EV cars

BCSnob wrote:
So why are EV sales the only focus for slowing in increases in power consumption? Shouldn’t we be looking at all large or fast growing power consumption sectors?

Red herring argument...I have seen articles arguing about additional housing development being a problem in some areas.

There is also pressure regarding home sizes pushing for smaller homes.

The fact is a family needs someplace to live, you can't just say "no home for you".

With cars, there are other viable fuel sources, so while we can shift to EVs, doing so in a measured rate makes sense.

In case you haven't notice Some RVers now tow with EVs and others tow EVs behind Class A, B, & C motor homes.

valhalla360 wrote:

Red herring argument...

So is the EIA wrong?

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
In case you haven't notice Some RVers now tow with EVs and others tow EVs behind Class A, B, & C motor homes.

Are there flat towable EVs? Last I heard, the answer was no but I see no technological reason they couldn't change that.

While not a big deal in terms of the larger EV market, I could see that becoming a popular TOAD option.
- The long runs are covered by the MH diesel dragging it along.
- Short local trips can be supplemented with fast charging or in some cases campground charging (if allowed and the system can handle it). Possibly even a large alternator on the MH could do some supplemental charging though that may be more hassle than it's worth.

Personally I find Teslas to be rather bland looking unless you count the original roadster. Those I kind of like.

BCSnob wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Red herring argument...

So is the EIA wrong?

The 2050 numbers...who knows. I don't know who they are or what their agenda is. Give me a dart board & a blindfold and I can probably do just as accurate of a prediction. I do find is suspect if they are assuming 75% or more vehicles will be EV by 2050.

But your argument that only EVs are called out for significant increases in power consumption is the red herring argument.

Wait, I re-read it. They are projecting only 7% of the vehicle fleet as EV by 2050, so if EVs remain a fringe option, yeah, they are probably right.

If EVs actually become a substantial portion of the market, they are dead wrong.

valhalla360 wrote:
Are there flat towable EVs? Last I heard, the answer was no but I see no technological reason they couldn't change that.

Supposedly RIVIAN is flat towable. Have yet to read a story of someone actually doing it.

Here is article about flat towing a Rivian.

https://www.rivianownersforum.com/threads/battery-charging-while-towing.1142/#post-6595

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
Californians asked to keep AC at 78 and nix electric vehicle charges to spare grid

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/californians-asked-to-keep-ac-at-78-and-nix-electric-vehicle-charges-to-spare-grid/ar-AA11jDFN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a1503e2821444666cbf95e8236c9b26d

Also Newsweek reporting this today.

Been asking people to give appliances the afternoon off since at least the 1960s.
Normal and ordinary to have the public reduce usage during the early evening power peak on the hottest days.

https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/default.aspx

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
In case you haven't notice Some RVers now tow with EVs and others tow EVs behind Class A, B, & C motor homes.

And some folks don't even have RVs....

I just ran across this browsing the business news.


$30,000 Replacement battery for a $10,000 EV Volt

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/dealership-quotes-30-000-to-replace-battery-in-a-10-000-chevrolet-volt/ar-AA11hHuE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0dbef53ffc6d9573d3b1598778794747