Well, it happened. Took my wife to the RV show in Grand Rapids two weekends ago just to have some fun, only to have both of us get very interested in a 5th wheel. The very next day, after 3 hours of negotiating, we purchased the unit. It is a Prime Time Crusader 28RL, 31'11" length, with a dry weight of 7,890 lbs. & hitch weight of 1,350 lbs. We are well under our payload & towing limits of my 6'6" bed King Cab XD, but I am researching which 5ver hitch would serve us best. Our dealer is recommending the Andersen Ultimate unit, but I am leaning toward the Pullrite Ultralight or Demco 16K (traditional) hitches. Prefer to have our truck bed fully usable when not towing, and the weight savings possible. Looking for advice from those who have used these hitches for short bed 5ver towing, both positive and/or negative.

B&W. 6/6 bed i'd go slider too. better safe than sorry.

Double check your weights and tow ratings...An 8,000lb dry camper is probably north of 10,000-11,000lb ready to role and the hitch weight is likely up around 2,000-2,500lb (typically you want 20-25% on the pin).Dry weights are worthless.

Quadcab wrote:Well, it happened. Took my wife to the RV show in Grand Rapids two weekends ago just to have some fun, only to have both of us get very interested in a 5th wheel. The very next day, after 3 hours of negotiating, we purchased the unit. It is a Prime Time Crusader 28RL, 31'11" length, with a dry weight of 7,890 lbs. & hitch weight of 1,350 lbs. We are well under our payload & towing limits of my 6'6" bed King Cab XD, but I am researching which 5ver hitch would serve us best. Our dealer is recommending the Andersen Ultimate unit, but I am leaning toward the Pullrite Ultralight or Demco 16K (traditional) hitches. Prefer to have our truck bed fully usable when not towing, and the weight savings possible. Looking for advice from those who have used these hitches for short bed 5ver towing, both positive and/or negative.I would bet to say once loaded your hitch weight will be above 1700lbs.How much do one of those slider hitches weigh too? Around 130lbs?So you are looking at 1830lbs of payload taken up before you and the wife get into the truck too? So what is your payload? Most XD 4wd models I've seen only have 1700lbs at most. Let us know.Here is some good read for you too:https://www.titanxdforum.com/forum/426-towing/25249-door-sticker-payload.html

So you have a half ton TV and your guestimating with dry weight? Looked up the specs on your fifth wheel on General RV's site - the gross weight is 10122 - I added the brochure dry and cargo capacity weights which were different from your figures. Looked up payload for your TV as well - 1573 to 2038. Not sure what your door sticker says.Looked at Pin weight estimator web site and plugged in your numbers and it came up with 2035 pounds for pin weight. So I don't agree with your assessment that you have more than enough payload.To answer your question, you have a short bed pickup and your going to get told that you don't need a slider. I have a short bed and I absolutely need one due to the angle needed to get into my driveway - and most camp sites. So the problem with that is they weigh upwards of 275 lbs - the weight of my B&W companion slider.Now with the Anderson, it will put the trailer about 6 inches back - at least that is whet their video states, which may save you from blowing out your back window and denting your cab - don't ask how I found this out.You state you want the bed to be flat when not towing. Unless you can install pucks, and I'm pretty sure they aren't even made for your truck, you will be bolting rails to the frame.So if you are going to go ahead and tow this fifth wheel with your current TV, I'd go with the Anderson. You can remove it without needing a chain fall or three buddies.I think your setting yourself up for an expensive disappointment, but I'm just a guy on an internet forum. Be sure to post back about how you ultimately set it up and how it performs. Good luck.

Quadcab wrote:Well, it happened. Took my wife to the RV show in Grand Rapids two weekends ago just to have some fun, only to have both of us get very interested in a 5th wheel. The very next day, after 3 hours of negotiating, we purchased the unit. It is a Prime Time Crusader 28RL, 31'11" length, with a dry weight of 7,890 lbs. & hitch weight of 1,350 lbs. We are well under our payload & towing limits of my 6'6" bed King Cab XD, but I am researching which 5ver hitch would serve us best. Our dealer is recommending the Andersen Ultimate unit, but I am leaning toward the Pullrite Ultralight or Demco 16K (traditional) hitches. Prefer to have our truck bed fully usable when not towing, and the weight savings possible. Looking for advice from those who have used these hitches for short bed 5ver towing, both positive and/or negative.Well I went straight to the Horses Mouth.Prime Time Crusader 28RLUnderstand towing capacity has nothing to do carrying capacity. Don't know what the Payload your Titan is, but likely less than 2,000#. The Payload is posted for your truck on the yellow sticker on the drivers door pillar. The 1,322# pin listed on the web will grow, it is only 16% of the dry weight. Once your stuff is in the 5er, and in the TV, you will likely added 400# to 600# to the TV weight, and 600# to 1,000# to the 5er. The pin weight will grow by about 20% of what weight you add to the 5er.What is the weight rating on your current tires. Did it come with "P" tires or "LT" tires?Do you have the Goose Neck option? could use an Andersen hitch, but could run into issues with cab clearance.ON EDIT: The first thing you need to do is weigh your TV, front and rear axles separately to get a total weight of TV, READY to tow. This is with a full tank of fuel and all occupants along for the ride.

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librty02
Explorer
Jan 31, 2019
Quadcab wrote:
Well, it happened. Took my wife to the RV show in Grand Rapids two weekends ago just to have some fun, only to have both of us get very interested in a 5th wheel. The very next day, after 3 hours of negotiating, we purchased the unit. It is a Prime Time Crusader 28RL, 31'11" length, with a dry weight of 7,890 lbs. & hitch weight of 1,350 lbs. We are well under our payload & towing limits of my 6'6" bed King Cab XD, but I am researching which 5ver hitch would serve us best. Our dealer is recommending the Andersen Ultimate unit, but I am leaning toward the Pullrite Ultralight or Demco 16K (traditional) hitches. Prefer to have our truck bed fully usable when not towing, and the weight savings possible. Looking for advice from those who have used these hitches for short bed 5ver towing, both positive and/or negative.

I would bet to say once loaded your hitch weight will be above 1700lbs.
How much do one of those slider hitches weigh too? Around 130lbs?
So you are looking at 1830lbs of payload taken up before you and the wife get into the truck too? So what is your payload? Most XD 4wd models I've seen only have 1700lbs at most. Let us know.

Here is some good read for you too:
https://www.titanxdforum.com/forum/426-towing/25249-door-sticker-payload.html
valhalla360
Navigator
Jan 31, 2019
Double check your weights and tow ratings...An 8,000lb dry camper is probably north of 10,000-11,000lb ready to role and the hitch weight is likely up around 2,000-2,500lb (typically you want 20-25% on the pin).

Dry weights are worthless.
gdweb
Explorer
Jan 30, 2019
B&W. 6/6 bed i'd go slider too. better safe than sorry.

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