Tow Bar with Autostop Braking System
New to dinghy towing. I haven't seen anything on this system doing a search here. It may be that I haven't used the right search terms or that this product might be new? Ready Brute with Ready Br...
Forum Discussion
A couple of different issues have now been raised.
1) Esox, you first state that the system is tempermental. Upon being queried twice to find out the specifics of your system problem, you respond with the problems you had with a "light" not working. Discussing that issue, you respond several times solely about the "light". Now, out of the blue, you write that "it had nothing to do with the light and everything to do with the failure of the mechanical surge braking system to work effectively". You further assert that you've said that before ("I repeat"). The only thing I've seen you repeat is that the light was your issue. I guess what I'm saying is that it's a little difficult to figure out your position when the goal posts get moved and I'm not willing to continue to argue a moving point.
2)7ofus has raised the point of warranty issues. First, I'm not concerned about warranty issues because of a functioning vs non functioning advisory light. I can't readily imagine a situation where I'd need to make a warranty claim where the light was involved. Most likely issue would probably be a bad weld or bad heat treating process. Hard for a mfr to defend that kind of warranty claim because of a "light" since there is no way a light would advise of those type of failures. Second, in the event of a failure causing damage to my assets or those of others, I am insured and the issue would come into play under the subrogation clause of my insurance. After my insurance pays, my insurance would have to determine whether or not the claim payment they made was sufficiently high enough to justify them spending more $ to go after the mfr. Practically speaking, that is not of much concern to me.
But under the terms of my ins. policy, I would have to give what assistance I could to their action against the mfr - and I would. I would turn over my invoices which show that I bought directly from the mfr and that the mfr did the actual install, not some independent hitch dealer. Second I would turn over, well no there would be nothing to turn over since there is nothing on the invoice, work order or anything else that I was given or I signed that states I was giving up any, so-called, valuable warranty coverage. Third, I think that the Federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act would be exactly on-point when a warrantor relies on an ancillary issue in an attempt to void a consumer product warranty. Fourth, I've learned over my years to not trust much of what RV salesman say and I've extended a practice that I use with them into other areas as well - I have my phone recording device turned on during those face to face dealings. I have it recorded that, in fact, the mfr made it an option, without prodding from the consumer, to install or not install the advisory light, my subsequent functionality questions and their answers that the light has zero to do with functionality.
Corporate lawyers and companies are known to write disclaimers that won't stand up :). Most of us have probably seen examples of this with restaurants posting signs that they are not responsible for loss from cloak rooms provided by them or dealers with chain link fences surrounding their property posting signs disclaiming responsibility for cars left with them for repairs etc.
Anyway, this thread went far afield from my original intent which was to gather information prior to a purchase. For me, the OP, this issue is moot.
1) Esox, you first state that the system is tempermental. Upon being queried twice to find out the specifics of your system problem, you respond with the problems you had with a "light" not working. Discussing that issue, you respond several times solely about the "light". Now, out of the blue, you write that "it had nothing to do with the light and everything to do with the failure of the mechanical surge braking system to work effectively". You further assert that you've said that before ("I repeat"). The only thing I've seen you repeat is that the light was your issue. I guess what I'm saying is that it's a little difficult to figure out your position when the goal posts get moved and I'm not willing to continue to argue a moving point.
2)7ofus has raised the point of warranty issues. First, I'm not concerned about warranty issues because of a functioning vs non functioning advisory light. I can't readily imagine a situation where I'd need to make a warranty claim where the light was involved. Most likely issue would probably be a bad weld or bad heat treating process. Hard for a mfr to defend that kind of warranty claim because of a "light" since there is no way a light would advise of those type of failures. Second, in the event of a failure causing damage to my assets or those of others, I am insured and the issue would come into play under the subrogation clause of my insurance. After my insurance pays, my insurance would have to determine whether or not the claim payment they made was sufficiently high enough to justify them spending more $ to go after the mfr. Practically speaking, that is not of much concern to me.
But under the terms of my ins. policy, I would have to give what assistance I could to their action against the mfr - and I would. I would turn over my invoices which show that I bought directly from the mfr and that the mfr did the actual install, not some independent hitch dealer. Second I would turn over, well no there would be nothing to turn over since there is nothing on the invoice, work order or anything else that I was given or I signed that states I was giving up any, so-called, valuable warranty coverage. Third, I think that the Federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act would be exactly on-point when a warrantor relies on an ancillary issue in an attempt to void a consumer product warranty. Fourth, I've learned over my years to not trust much of what RV salesman say and I've extended a practice that I use with them into other areas as well - I have my phone recording device turned on during those face to face dealings. I have it recorded that, in fact, the mfr made it an option, without prodding from the consumer, to install or not install the advisory light, my subsequent functionality questions and their answers that the light has zero to do with functionality.
Corporate lawyers and companies are known to write disclaimers that won't stand up :). Most of us have probably seen examples of this with restaurants posting signs that they are not responsible for loss from cloak rooms provided by them or dealers with chain link fences surrounding their property posting signs disclaiming responsibility for cars left with them for repairs etc.
Anyway, this thread went far afield from my original intent which was to gather information prior to a purchase. For me, the OP, this issue is moot.
