Grit dog wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
As I read these post about towing a 16,000#+ 5er with a SRW, I think about GVWR and axle ratings. Prior to 2020 both GM and Ford highest GVWR for a SRW was 11,500#, making the approximate max payload about 3,700#. Ram on the other hand the 3500 SRW LB had a GVWR of 12,300# since 2013.
One needs to ask why didn’t GM and Ford up their SRW GVWR in 2014 to match Ram. Best guess is that GM and Ford didn’t have the frame strength to make those increases.
And now one has to ask why Ram is the only one who hasn’t super sized their srw gvw ratings in recent years like the other 2.
Are Ram 4th gens weaker?
Nope just like the older fords and GM s weren’t either. They’re basically taxable ratings that are loosely associated with the vehicles’ actual capacities or capabilities.
PS, it looks like Ferd and GM read more of the “3/4 tons are useless” internet drivel and decided to try to capitalize on marketing against that widespread theory....
Also didn’t you pull a decent size 5ver with an old Dodge srw for a long time?
Having used and abused most every model of truck from the big 3 over the last 30 years, I can say every HD truck since about the year 2000 giver take. 2nd gen Dodges, GMT 800s and the orig Superduty have had the chassis to tug a 16k trailer. Drivetrains, depends on model.
Grit Dog, don't know where you have been since 2013, but Ram made the jump to big SRW GVWR back then.
2013 Ram 3500 SRW LB GVWR 12,300#
2013 Ram 3500 SRW SB GVWR 11,700#
Ford and GM were still topped out at 11,500# until 2020.
Some other points
since 2003 Ram has had a fully boxed frame, I think it took Ford several years for a fully boxed frame, looks like about 2017.
I have felt that Dodge/Ram has been conservative with their weight ratings before 2013.
Our old 2001 Dodge/Ram 2500 had a GVWR 8,800#, the only GVWR for the 2500 94 to 2002, yet ours came with 3500 springs, a Dana 80 rear axle, and optional 285/75-16E tires (3,415# rating), yet still a 8,800# GVWR. Towed several years with that truck between 10,300# and 10,500# GVW, never need help to ride level.
