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clucey
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Jun 03, 2014

Towmax Tires - Another One Bites the Dust !

Here is my 2013 Cyclone 3800 just under 2 years old. Blown Towmax Chinese junker. So lets talk about this. We have big triple axle toy hauler being sent out of the factory with barely enough tire on them. I was concerned with this when i bought my unit and was assured by the US and Canadian Heartland rep that this was a internet thing and that the ST tires were not a problem. I insisted that i wanted a bigger rim and a real tire and Heartland said i was over reacting and no option was available at that time even though i saw some Cyclones with a G option.

So here are the particulars:

2013 Cyclone 3800
Tires checked prior to departure. 80PSI
Garage empty (couple lacrosse sticks and lacrosse equip bags), fuel empty, water 1/2
Storage filled with 4 chairs, table, camp chef stove, hoses and elec cords
Highway speed 55mph

I caught something out of my mirror and i was like wtf, and then the bang came. The tread was ejected off the tire and did somewhere in the neighborhood of $2000-3000 worth of damage. I changed the tire out for the spare and then decided to check the pressure of all the other tires. All within 1 lb of 80psi.

I called Heartland and they gave me the song and dance and referred me to Towmax. We will see what happens one it gets to Dynamic in Ontario this week.

If you multiply the 3520lbs by 6 you get 21120 max lbs at 80psi. Now if you believe you should run at max weight because your tires say it, i think you are in for a rude awakening. I believe you should have a buffer. I like to use 80% as a rough guide. That brings you to 17,000 lbs. Keep in mind this is my opinion and the way i choose to operate.

The weight of my rig is as follows:

Cyclone 3800 16469 lbs (camp ready garage empty, 0 water, 0 fuel)
Water 500 lbs

I was operating at around 17,000 lbs plus or minus 300 lbs.

I have noticed one of the other tires on the opposite side has a weird indent in the sidewall. This trailer will not make another mile until 17.5 rims and a good commercial grade tires are installed. I now have to find 4-7000 dollars to pay for this mess. If Heartland would of not cheaped out and put some decent standard equipment on i would be singing a different praise im sure. This is not a internet problem. This is real ! Check out the various forums and you will see this en-compasses more than the Heartland brand. It quite frankly covers many different ST tires. Having just enough weight rating to cover the trailer is not enough !

Here are a couple pictures




23 Replies

  • One thing no one takes into consideration is how fast the tires were driven during the 1000 mile delivery, by someone who is working at a time is money job....or the air pressure in the tire at that time....
  • Did you report it to the NHTSA https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq If they are not reported nothing will be done.
    Trying to find trailer tires not made in China was for me impossible but since our teardrop weighs only 1600# I used passenger car tires each of which has a 1650# load rating.
    Good luck
  • You are right....all kind of weight shifting and road forces at play. I suspect if you could measure it you would find that these tires were routinely over their limit....not to mention that they are junk.

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