Trouble with California
Ag. Check points;we all know understand and tolerate them,never a problem. Couple of weeks ago we were heade to redwood. National forest from Grants Pas Oregon. Ag check ahead, ok I fall into line ...
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CFerguson wrote:
...No, Hoover Dam is different. Its considered something like a critical infrastructure site by Homeland Security or something.
And that's understandable imo.
Yup. To drive across Hoover dam, you have to go through an inspection point. And the only thing you can do is turn around and come back, they closed the vehicle access from the AZ side. To drive across the (new) Hwy 93 bypass bridge, you just keep the cruise control set and change your clocks to the new time zone.
bpounds wrote:
...Your vehicle has no rights at all. I'm pretty sure you could walk across without a search.
Right. A vehicle has no rights. As a possession, with me in it, the rights I have are extended to it.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized"
So RVs, which can be classified as a house/home/residence are excluded? Even in a vehicle, a car can be considered covered under "and effects". I don't think a state can just toss people out of their vehicle and search it on a whim. Probable cause needs to be articulated by the authority.
Going way back to the OP's original post and asking when the vehicle entering California was last in New York, and getting the answer 8-9 weeks ago. That really gets thin on the 'probable cause' clause. If the OP had said 'we have been hanging around the apple orchards in WA state', that would be probable cause. But they didn't say that.
-Eric
