WARNING ABOUT COLTON RV, WHO SELLS AT HERSHEY RV SHOW

D & M wrote:

JJBIRISH wrote:
JayGee
“gnore the negative posts, sometimes you are guilty here until proven innocent. A lot of good info and RVing advice can be found on this forum sometimes by the same people that sound negative.”

There is a good reason for that… the answer or best advice or best opinions for post made may require a negative response, or a negative response offers the best results to a problem, or the negative response is nothing more than differing opinions… but differing opinions is neither negative or positive, just different considerations…

ScottG
“Yes, ignore those that always feel the need to rub salt in peoples wounds - there's a few of them on every forum.
We are indeed a community and the people in a community should support each other.”

If this is what or how you feel perhaps a forum of counselors is the place to express your rants, not a public forum where you will get real public opinion and criticism…

We are a community and a source for information and opinion with the intention of trying to offer or find good information from a wide audience of experiences and expertise…
Support is fine but completely unnecessary if truth and reality and living experience is where the answers are found… coddling is not true support of any value and where a forum of consolers would be better suited…

minn camping family
“And I actually appreciate when someone posts about their dealer experiences, both good and bad. When making a very large RV purchase and/or arranging service I want as much information as possible about who I'm dealing with.”

What value is any information from a unquestioned one side source (rant) full of biases, if the biases isn’t ferreted out and reason is discounted just to be supportive…

What you want is as much accurate information as you can find about who you are dealing with… operating with bad information is no better and maybe worse than having none and forming you own opinion in real time…

well thought out

I think you are saying that it is OK for people to post their negative opinion which is what the OP and several others have done. All opinions and experiences are one sided, forums allow other opinions to be expressed as arguments. That's why there are sites like rvparkreview etc. My original point was to look for the good advice inside of all the posts.

I would like for the OP to come back and address some questions and provide an update too, but not likely to happen now. I understand them wanting out of the $8000 deal, I have felt burned in a deal or two and I didn't like it. Someone might avoid a mistake in the future if they read this thread. Much better prices can probably be found for that service.

Dutch, in your defense, there's not really much to do about it. Had you read the contract up front and objected to the terms, they would have said "no deal". Sign it or don't sign it, the choice is yours.

Consumer loans like this get sold as a portfolio to investors, and it's important that every contract have the same terms...they are not going to make an exception for one guy.

Now that you know what you got, you plan accordingly, which it sounds like you've done!

For the OP, Ron3rd is correct, once the ink is dry the profit is booked....there are no refunds on service contracts like these. The time to decide you didn't want it was before you signed, not after. Besides, maintenance and repairs for 5 years sounds like worry-free RVing, assuming the service contract was from a real company, not one of these fugazy guys that has no participating dealers.

lanerd wrote:
Since the OP won't be back and not provide any more info, I thought I'd add some more questions here on basically the same subject.

It's my understanding that when you purchase an extended warranty from a dealer when you purchase the vehicle, that the markup on that warranty is usually close to 100% that goes directly to the dealer.

So, if you want to cancel that contract (and able to do so) will the dealer also refund (pro rated of course) his portion of the contract along with the warranty provider?

Just wondering..

Ron

That is true. The dealers "buy" the service contract for say, $1,000 or somesuch amount and anything they get over that is gravy. That's how an $8,000 service contract magically becomes $3,000 when you're about to walk. Huge profit maker for the dealer and many of the contracts are worthless or the issuing company goes out of business because the profit is made by selling contracts and not paying out on any claims.

DutchmenSport wrote:
There's something to be said about not reading or understanding the contract, but let's assume the original poster did understand everything.

Not to hijack the thread, but I recently purchased a John Deere riding mower. It's in the 700 series, so it's a nice big one, with removable deck you drive over and also got the 60 inch snow blower attachment, all for a grand total over $15,000! We financed, and financing had to be through John Deere. All is happy.

Then my wife wanted to set up an auto pay from our checking account and as we always do, she opted to make a regular monthly payment greater than the minimum so the additional would be applied to principle. All is well, so far.

So, the first auto pay hit, and it was only for the minimum. She called Mr. Deere and they explained they only withdraw the minimum and no more. AND if we make any additional payment, the extra is applied to NEXT MONTH's interest first, and NOT to principle. (WHAT!?) I about blew a gasket! Mr. Deere said, it's in the contract! Sure 'nough, it is! Did I read it.... um no! But there is no penalty if we pay it off one lump sum. Live an learn. So we just making minimum payments and apply the extra to our trailer payment now!

So ya know, even the best of us can be slothful from time to time! Live and learn.

Dutchmen you are absolutely correct and the difference here is even though you blew a gasket you verified the facts and owned your mistake… better yet you found an alternative that will most likely serve you just as well…

As far as John Deere, its been years since I have dealt with them, but when I did there was no better to deal with when it came to customer service… when I bought the first twin cylinder lawn tractor model 317 that had a troubled Koehler engine in it JD not Koehler stood behind it when other makes nor Koehler did… they took responsibility for 5 years replacing the engine 4 times (even paying air freight for quick turnaround) (commercial use to)… that only ended when there was a complete remake of the Koehler 17 HP engine and they replaced the engine a final time even though engine in use was still ok… by then JD had switched to a more reliable Onan 18 HP (318)…

Enjoy your JD, nothing runs like a Deere…



BTW the final version of the 17 HP Koehler was good and lasted many hours…

Chris Bryant wrote:
No offence, but it really doesn't carry much weight when someone comes here solely for the purpose of bashing a dealer/manufacturer/repair shop/campground.
This is a community, and folks are more inclined to pay attention if you had actually contributed anything whatsoever before throwing around accusations.

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The OP has an axe to grind..:S

A "One Post Wonder" !!..:R

Kinda makes you....wonder, huh?!..:h

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Since the OP won't be back and not provide any more info, I thought I'd add some more questions here on basically the same subject.

It's my understanding that when you purchase an extended warranty from a dealer when you purchase the vehicle, that the markup on that warranty is usually close to 100% that goes directly to the dealer.

So, if you want to cancel that contract (and able to do so) will the dealer also refund (pro rated of course) his portion of the contract along with the warranty provider?

Just wondering..

Ron

Where'd the OP go he ain't been back since the original post. Myself, I'd to hear the whole story.

There's something to be said about not reading or understanding the contract, but let's assume the original poster did understand everything.

Not to hijack the thread, but I recently purchased a John Deere riding mower. It's in the 700 series, so it's a nice big one, with removable deck you drive over and also got the 60 inch snow blower attachment, all for a grand total over $15,000! We financed, and financing had to be through John Deere. All is happy.

Then my wife wanted to set up an auto pay from our checking account and as we always do, she opted to make a regular monthly payment greater than the minimum so the additional would be applied to principle. All is well, so far.

So, the first auto pay hit, and it was only for the minimum. She called Mr. Deere and they explained they only withdraw the minimum and no more. AND if we make any additional payment, the extra is applied to NEXT MONTH's interest first, and NOT to principle. (WHAT!?) I about blew a gasket! Mr. Deere said, it's in the contract! Sure 'nough, it is! Did I read it.... um no! But there is no penalty if we pay it off one lump sum. Live an learn. So we just making minimum payments and apply the extra to our trailer payment now!

So ya know, even the best of us can be slothful from time to time! Live and learn.

JJBIRISH wrote:
JayGee
“gnore the negative posts, sometimes you are guilty here until proven innocent. A lot of good info and RVing advice can be found on this forum sometimes by the same people that sound negative.”

There is a good reason for that… the answer or best advice or best opinions for post made may require a negative response, or a negative response offers the best results to a problem, or the negative response is nothing more than differing opinions… but differing opinions is neither negative or positive, just different considerations…

ScottG
“Yes, ignore those that always feel the need to rub salt in peoples wounds - there's a few of them on every forum.
We are indeed a community and the people in a community should support each other.”

If this is what or how you feel perhaps a forum of counselors is the place to express your rants, not a public forum where you will get real public opinion and criticism…

We are a community and a source for information and opinion with the intention of trying to offer or find good information from a wide audience of experiences and expertise…
Support is fine but completely unnecessary if truth and reality and living experience is where the answers are found… coddling is not true support of any value and where a forum of consolers would be better suited…

minn camping family
“And I actually appreciate when someone posts about their dealer experiences, both good and bad. When making a very large RV purchase and/or arranging service I want as much information as possible about who I'm dealing with.”

What value is any information from a unquestioned one side source (rant) full of biases, if the biases isn’t ferreted out and reason is discounted just to be supportive…

What you want is as much accurate information as you can find about who you are dealing with… operating with bad information is no better and maybe worse than having none and forming you own opinion in real time…

well thought out

JayGee
“gnore the negative posts, sometimes you are guilty here until proven innocent. A lot of good info and RVing advice can be found on this forum sometimes by the same people that sound negative.”

There is a good reason for that… the answer or best advice or best opinions for post made may require a negative response, or a negative response offers the best results to a problem, or the negative response is nothing more than differing opinions… but differing opinions is neither negative or positive, just different considerations…

ScottG
“Yes, ignore those that always feel the need to rub salt in peoples wounds - there's a few of them on every forum.
We are indeed a community and the people in a community should support each other.”

If this is what or how you feel perhaps a forum of counselors is the place to express your rants, not a public forum where you will get real public opinion and criticism…

We are a community and a source for information and opinion with the intention of trying to offer or find good information from a wide audience of experiences and expertise…
Support is fine but completely unnecessary if truth and reality and living experience is where the answers are found… coddling is not true support of any value and where a forum of consolers would be better suited…

minn camping family
“And I actually appreciate when someone posts about their dealer experiences, both good and bad. When making a very large RV purchase and/or arranging service I want as much information as possible about who I'm dealing with.”

What value is any information from a unquestioned one side source (rant) full of biases, if the biases isn’t ferreted out and reason is discounted just to be supportive…

What you want is as much accurate information as you can find about who you are dealing with… operating with bad information is no better and maybe worse than having none and forming you own opinion in real time…