Weight Master, check my readings
Trying to get it setup on my new trailer. Truck F: 3380 R: 2800 With WD F: 3420 R:3580 Trailer 4960 Without WD F:3100 R:4100 Trailer 4740 Thanks Michael
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Ron Gratz wrote:Terryallan wrote:The tongue weight indicated by the scales numbers was not 1300#. The indicated TW was 1020#.lbrjet wrote:
Terryallen, your are including the 280lbs removed from the front axle in your 1300lb tongue weight. The TW is actually 1020.
Personally I could care less about a little squat. My F250 sits an inch higher in the front with nothing attached due to the giant springs that are part of the snow plow package. Not all trucks sit high in the back unloaded. And the rear squating a bit does not automatically mean it is not set up correctly.
Actually I wasn't, but I got my tongue weight from the last set of numbers he had. 2800lb unloaded rear axle, and a 4100lb loaded rear axle. Come to 1300lb. Meaning he has an approx 22% tongue weight. Pretty high. Not only is the truck over loaded, but so is the receiver. Seriously needs to move some weight in the TT.
The indicated TW% was 1020/5780 = 17.6% or 1020/5760 = 17.7% -- take your choice. The indicated TW is not approx 22%.
You cannot calculate TW by using only the increase in rear axle load.
You must use the sum of the front plus rear load (when hitched with no WD applied) minus the sum of the front plus rear load (for TV only).
For the OP's weights, the indicated TW is (3100+4100) - (3380+2800) = 1020#.
Ron
But Ron. Does the 220lb transferred to the TT not count in the tongue weight? It is in fact tongue weight. It has just been moved, but the entire weight including the weight transferred is going thru the receiver on the truck.
I have always been taught. that the total weight of the tongue, before transferring. Is the actual tongue weight of the trailer. After all. That is what you get when you weigh the tongue by it self. If that weight is 1000lbs, then the tongue weight is 1000lbs. If it is 500 then it is 500, and if it is 1200 or more that is what it is. The only way to know how much weight the TT actually adds to the truck is to weigh the tongue by it self.
At any rate. Even if it is 1020lbs. It is still too much. Something is NOT right. A -6000lb TT should NOT have a 1000lb tongue weight. It should be in the 720lb range
