Weight Master, check my readings

Ron Gratz wrote:

Terryallan wrote:
But Ron. Does the 220lb transferred to the TT not count in the tongue weight? It is in fact tongue weight. It has just been moved, but the entire weight including the weight transferred is going thru the receiver on the truck.

When there is no WD applied, there is no load transferred to the TT's axles. 100% of the tongue weight is being carried on the receiver.
The increased load on the TV (sum of front and rear axles) is equal to the TW.

I have always been taught. that the total weight of the tongue, before transferring. Is the actual tongue weight of the trailer. After all. That is what you get when you weigh the tongue by it self. If that weight is 1000lbs, then the tongue weight is 1000lbs. If it is 500 then it is 500, and if it is 1200 or more that is what it is. The only way to know how much weight the TT actually adds to the truck is to weigh the tongue by it self.

The way to determine how much load the TT adds to the TV is to weigh the TV hitched with no WD applied and then subtract the weight of the TV only.

When WD is applied, the load added to the TV becomes equal to the tongue weight MINUS the amount of load transferred to the TT's axles.
That means, with WD applied, the indicated TW is equal to the load added to the TV PLUS the load added to the TT's axles.
The OP's numbers show this estimate of TW to be equal to 820+220 = 1040#.

At any rate. Even if it is 1020lbs. It is still too much. Something is NOT right. A -6000lb TT should NOT have a 1000lb tongue weight. It should be in the 720lb range

There is nothing wrong with a 6000# TT having a 1000# TW -- as long as the TV and receiver can handle the vertical load imposed by the TT.

The OP's numbers show the load on the TV's axles, with WD applied, to be 3420+3580 = 7000# -- compared to a GVWR of 7000#.
He was 530# under front GAWR and 370# under rear GAWR.

I don't see a loading problem.

Ron

I believe we will just have to disagree. You don't see a problem with the empty truck being at the GVWR before the driver, passengers get in. I do. Not going to guess how much the OP, and his DW weighs, but there is 100lbs of dog listed. It will be over loaded as soon as they sit down. There is no room for the driver. It may be under the axle rating, but it will be several hundred over the GVWR once ready to travel. You know I don't have a problem with being a little over the GVWR. But that truck will be a bunch over the GVWR. I'm not worried about the tires, even the OEM tires should be fine, and I'm not concerned about any overloaded tickets. Not going to happen. however we all know. The brakes are only designed to stop the GVWR of the truck.

But you know. I ain't driving it. And MOP is just worth what y'all paid for it.
Have fun.