Forum Discussion
kaydeejay
Feb 20, 2015Explorer
kzspree320 wrote:Close, but not quite!!
The GVRW (gross vehicle weight rating) is the maximum the vehicle can weigh loaded with full fuel, all passengers, all cargo and the hitch or pin weight with the TT or fifth wheel attached. I think you are talking about payload with the 150 lb driver and full tank of fuel. Payload is generally the GVWR less empty weight of truck less full fuel and less 150 lb driver. Also stated as GVWR less weight of truck with full fuel and 150 lb driver. This is my understanding and I hope it helps. Keith
GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) is, as you describe, the maximum that the truck should weigh at any time, according to the Manufacturer's spec.
PAYLOAD is GVWR minus the EMPTY weight of the truck - no driver, no fuel, and is the "Weight of Occupants and Cargo must not exceed" number on the tire label near the driver's door on post 2005 trucks.
MTWR (Max Tow Weight Rating) is the maximum the truck is supposed to pull. This number DOES allow for a 150# driver. It is also reduced by every additional pound that is loaded into the truck. It is NOT necessarily what the truck can actually pull as that may be limited by the weight on the pin or tongue causing the truck weight to increase to GVWR.
Another way to calculate MTWR is to take the GCWR (Gross Combination Weight Rating) and subtract the loaded "ready to travel" weight of the truck.
Hope that helps.
About RV Tips & Tricks
Looking for advice before your next adventure? Look no further.25,152 PostsLatest Activity: Aug 01, 2025