What is included in Gross Vehicle Weight

JIMNLIN wrote:
LOl...lots of second guessing opinion there Ron about the post and the BC members intent or my intent. Nice try tho. There was no conspiracy.
You and I have been through this before and it seems important to you to discredit others opinions that differ from yours. The BC poster said what he said.

Jim, I don't see a need to discredit you. But, I do see a need to separate conjecture from fact. And, I do see a need to present all pertinent information.

Our difference of opinion in this thread stems from your response to this post by kaydeejay. Your response is in this post.

You attempted to discredit kaydeejay -- "

A BC regulation ?? LOL. To bad some folks don't look at BC real weight regulations.

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And, you attempted to discredit the BC Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure FAQ Sheet -- '

The clicky is a simple BC info sheet and has no enforceable weight codes or regulations in it. It says this at the bottom of the info sheet:
"Information on this Info sheet is subject to change without notice. In the event of conflict with this Info Sheet and the Motor Vehicle Act and Regulations, the Acts and Regulations shall apply."

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In fact, B.C. Reg. 26/58 -- Motor Vehicle Act -- MOTOR VEHICLE ACT REGULATIONS states in Overload prohibition 19.11 that vehicles manufactured after January 1, 2001, OR vehicles having a gross vehicle weight rating of 5 500 kg or more shall not have a gross vehicle weight which exceeds the gross vehicle weight rating for that vehicle as specified by the vehicle manufacturer.

So, although kaydeejay didn't cite the actual regulations, the document he cited is consistent with the "BC real weight regulations".

JIMNLIN wrote:
As we all know sometimes we get better info on size and weights issues from actual dot enforcement officers themselves as the poster from BC did than a 1-800 call to a person on the phone. My paste and copy was the gist of his findings. Interpret any way you like. ---

I interpret your paste and copy as being only part of what dukesofhazzardcounty posted in regard to his phone contacts with a DOT person.
After his first phone call, he reported the DOT person said you cannot go over the GVWR.
After his second phone call to a "dot worker", he reported a second DOT opinion.
Many times since 2011, you have cited a portion of the second opinion while never mentioning the first opinion.
We have no way of knowing if the second opinion was correct.
Fortunately, we don't need to rely on these anecdotal phone call reports because the correct information is contained in the B.C. Motor Vehicle Act Regulations as stated above.

JIMNLIN wrote:
---His input from the dot guy mirrors what other BC members have said about registering their trucks at "a" GVWR which may or may not be the door post GVWR.

He had input from two "dot guys".
The first input, which you did not cite, said the GVW cannot exceed the manufacturer's GVWR -- in accordance with the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations.
The second input, which you did cite, was not in accordance with the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations.
And, whether you can register a truck at "a" GVWR which may or may not be the door post GVWR, is not what kaydeejay was talking about.

JIMNLIN wrote:
Division 19 — Miscellaneous is a sort of catch all that includes issues such as livestock transport on certain highways/permits/use of flashing lites/weight scales/tow dolly restrictions/and others.

If this is an attempt to discredit the provisions of Division 19, it's not gonna work -- anyone who wants to read the text can do so.
The fact that it covers the items you listed, does not diminish the validity of the other sections.

JIMNLIN wrote:
19.05 weight scales; no question here the vehicles gross weight can be the sum of its axle weights.
(3) The gross weight of any tandem axles and the gross weight of any group of axles shall be the sum of the gross axle weights of all the axles comprising the tandem axles or the group of axles, as the case may be.
(4) The gross weight of any vehicle or combination of vehicles shall be the sum of the individual gross axle weights of all the axles of the vehicle or combination of vehicles.
en. B.C. Reg. 68/71, s. 5; am. B.C. Regs. 413/97, App. 1, s. 11; 135/2003, s. 6.

Jim, it's not a matter of gross vehicle weight CAN BE the sum of the individual axle weights. Gross vehicle weight IS the sum of the individual axle weights -- it's the definition.
However, contrary to what you seem to want people to believe, for most vehicles used for recreational towing, gross vehicle weight rating IS NOT the sum of the individual gross axle weight ratings.

JIMNLIN wrote:
Confusing ?? Not really. However it would be one reason the poster from BC made a 1-800 call to dot which lead to more confusion and then contacted a actual dot person for their interpretation.

How do we know the second response was more authoritative than the first? Oh, wait a minute, we don't need to rely on the anecdotal phone calls.
The correct information is found in the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations.

Ron