WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE THIS TOPIC IF YOUR CLOSING EVERYTHING

sh410 wrote:
Give it up. We know you don't agree. Start your own forum

Why that's not very nice, he's just expressing his opinion. I assume that is still allowed here even in this section. :B

4X4Dodger wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

4X4Dodger wrote:
This particular forum was one of the driving reasons I joined RV.NET. As many of you may have read I have been a vocal critic of the way this forum is moderated. It is simply killing it.

I just mentioned the moderation policy to Marcus who was responding to a post in another forum and I have sent a complaint to the President of GSC Mr. Siemens.

There is absolutely NO logical, supportable, factual argument that can be made by the Moderator or the Admin for this dead end policy. It comes down to one thing only.

The Moderator wants it this way.

The fact that the policy is bad for the advertisers is completely lost on the moderator. The fact that the policy is exclusionary and not in the best interests of the majority of users is lost on the moderator.

The fact that this forum is moderated DIFFERENTLY than virtually any other forum on this site seems to be lost on the Moderator.

Other RV and Workamping sites actually ENCOURAGE discussion about job postings and welcome comments both Positive and Negative.

There are too many employers out there who skirt the law and take advantage of (especially) temporary and seasonal workers. There are some employers who just blatantly scam people. Gladly they are in the minority but we as potential workampers DESERVE the ability to hear BOTH sides, the good and the bad about employers and the jobs they are advertising.

The good and honest EMPLOYERS deserve to have an open forum so that those who have worked there can relate to others what a good job it was and how well the employer treated them.

All of this is denied to us as users and employers by this ill conceived policy of moderation.

It needs to be changed.

I never realized we had a real life Ceasar Chavez in our midst. I never realized that RV.Net needed a crusader for the rights of the oppressed. 100 years from now, history will be able to look back at the moderation of this website and see it as the watershed moment it is. The last gasp of the oppressive employer holding down the poor workamper. Perhaps you should set your sights a bit higher and appeal to the President to issue a modern day Emancipation Proclamation. President Obama, Set the Workamper Free!!!!!!

You may mock me and make fun of this issue. But you cannot argue it on it's merits. And you as a potential employer, and I assume you are a fair one, should realize more than some that getting positive feedback from an ex employee on a site like this will do nothing except ENHANCE your ability to get good people when you need them.

It should be noted that you almost never miss an opportunity to disagree with anything I post. That is your prerogative on this site. And UNLIKE the moderator of this forum. I respect your right to do that and to disagree with me. Even if you do it in a slightly Snarky way.

It does not bother me to be disagreed with and I, unlike some, have enough confidence in my self that being disagreed with is just par for the course and see it as healthy and mind opening.

Others, apparently including you and the moderator, do not share this philosophy.

the merits of your arguments have been discussed ad nauseum.
to recap:
1. Employers are avoiding placing ads on this forum because of past experiences where the positions they offered were attacked.
2. The admin of the forum decided the best way to lure back some of those employers would be to close help wanted posts so there can not be attacks posted on their ads.
3. There are options to create those discussions you seem to value. START A NEW THREAD!!! The admin of the forums just posted in this thread that is the avenue you should take.
4. Being a privately owned and operated forum, the owners of this forum have the complete right and control to do as they please, including locking threads. It is their complete right to censure any discussion or speech they desire that occurs on their forums.

westernrvparkowner wrote:

4X4Dodger wrote:
This particular forum was one of the driving reasons I joined RV.NET. As many of you may have read I have been a vocal critic of the way this forum is moderated. It is simply killing it.

I just mentioned the moderation policy to Marcus who was responding to a post in another forum and I have sent a complaint to the President of GSC Mr. Siemens.

There is absolutely NO logical, supportable, factual argument that can be made by the Moderator or the Admin for this dead end policy. It comes down to one thing only.

The Moderator wants it this way.

The fact that the policy is bad for the advertisers is completely lost on the moderator. The fact that the policy is exclusionary and not in the best interests of the majority of users is lost on the moderator.

The fact that this forum is moderated DIFFERENTLY than virtually any other forum on this site seems to be lost on the Moderator.

Other RV and Workamping sites actually ENCOURAGE discussion about job postings and welcome comments both Positive and Negative.

There are too many employers out there who skirt the law and take advantage of (especially) temporary and seasonal workers. There are some employers who just blatantly scam people. Gladly they are in the minority but we as potential workampers DESERVE the ability to hear BOTH sides, the good and the bad about employers and the jobs they are advertising.

The good and honest EMPLOYERS deserve to have an open forum so that those who have worked there can relate to others what a good job it was and how well the employer treated them.

All of this is denied to us as users and employers by this ill conceived policy of moderation.

It needs to be changed.

I never realized we had a real life Ceasar Chavez in our midst. I never realized that RV.Net needed a crusader for the rights of the oppressed. 100 years from now, history will be able to look back at the moderation of this website and see it as the watershed moment it is. The last gasp of the oppressive employer holding down the poor workamper. Perhaps you should set your sights a bit higher and appeal to the President to issue a modern day Emancipation Proclamation. President Obama, Set the Workamper Free!!!!!!

You may mock me and make fun of this issue. But you cannot argue it on it's merits. And you as a potential employer, and I assume you are a fair one, should realize more than some that getting positive feedback from an ex employee on a site like this will do nothing except ENHANCE your ability to get good people when you need them.

It should be noted that you almost never miss an opportunity to disagree with anything I post. That is your prerogative on this site. And UNLIKE the moderator of this forum. I respect your right to do that and to disagree with me. Even if you do it in a slightly Snarky way.

It does not bother me to be disagreed with and I, unlike some, have enough confidence in my self that being disagreed with is just par for the course and see it as healthy and mind opening.

Others, apparently including you and the moderator, do not share this philosophy.

4X4Dodger wrote:
This particular forum was one of the driving reasons I joined RV.NET. As many of you may have read I have been a vocal critic of the way this forum is moderated. It is simply killing it.

I just mentioned the moderation policy to Marcus who was responding to a post in another forum and I have sent a complaint to the President of GSC Mr. Siemens.

There is absolutely NO logical, supportable, factual argument that can be made by the Moderator or the Admin for this dead end policy. It comes down to one thing only.

The Moderator wants it this way.

The fact that the policy is bad for the advertisers is completely lost on the moderator. The fact that the policy is exclusionary and not in the best interests of the majority of users is lost on the moderator.

The fact that this forum is moderated DIFFERENTLY than virtually any other forum on this site seems to be lost on the Moderator.

Other RV and Workamping sites actually ENCOURAGE discussion about job postings and welcome comments both Positive and Negative.

There are too many employers out there who skirt the law and take advantage of (especially) temporary and seasonal workers. There are some employers who just blatantly scam people. Gladly they are in the minority but we as potential workampers DESERVE the ability to hear BOTH sides, the good and the bad about employers and the jobs they are advertising.

The good and honest EMPLOYERS deserve to have an open forum so that those who have worked there can relate to others what a good job it was and how well the employer treated them.

All of this is denied to us as users and employers by this ill conceived policy of moderation.

It needs to be changed.

It is because of YOU and about 3 or 4 others like YOU, that my employer has STOPPED advertising for workampers in the forum.

4X4Dodger wrote:
This particular forum was one of the driving reasons I joined RV.NET. As many of you may have read I have been a vocal critic of the way this forum is moderated. It is simply killing it.

I just mentioned the moderation policy to Marcus who was responding to a post in another forum and I have sent a complaint to the President of GSC Mr. Siemens.

There is absolutely NO logical, supportable, factual argument that can be made by the Moderator or the Admin for this dead end policy. It comes down to one thing only.

The Moderator wants it this way.

The fact that the policy is bad for the advertisers is completely lost on the moderator. The fact that the policy is exclusionary and not in the best interests of the majority of users is lost on the moderator.

The fact that this forum is moderated DIFFERENTLY than virtually any other forum on this site seems to be lost on the Moderator.

Other RV and Workamping sites actually ENCOURAGE discussion about job postings and welcome comments both Positive and Negative.

There are too many employers out there who skirt the law and take advantage of (especially) temporary and seasonal workers. There are some employers who just blatantly scam people. Gladly they are in the minority but we as potential workampers DESERVE the ability to hear BOTH sides, the good and the bad about employers and the jobs they are advertising.

The good and honest EMPLOYERS deserve to have an open forum so that those who have worked there can relate to others what a good job it was and how well the employer treated them.

All of this is denied to us as users and employers by this ill conceived policy of moderation.

It needs to be changed.

I never realized we had a real life Ceasar Chavez in our midst. I never realized that RV.Net needed a crusader for the rights of the oppressed. 100 years from now, history will be able to look back at the moderation of this website and see it as the watershed moment it is. The last gasp of the oppressive employer holding down the poor workamper. Perhaps you should set your sights a bit higher and appeal to the President to issue a modern day Emancipation Proclamation. President Obama, Set the Workamper Free!!!!!!

Give it up. We know you don't agree. Start your own forum

This particular forum was one of the driving reasons I joined RV.NET. As many of you may have read I have been a vocal critic of the way this forum is moderated. It is simply killing it.

I just mentioned the moderation policy to Marcus who was responding to a post in another forum and I have sent a complaint to the President of GSC Mr. Siemens.

There is absolutely NO logical, supportable, factual argument that can be made by the Moderator or the Admin for this dead end policy. It comes down to one thing only.

The Moderator wants it this way.

The fact that the policy is bad for the advertisers is completely lost on the moderator. The fact that the policy is exclusionary and not in the best interests of the majority of users is lost on the moderator.

The fact that this forum is moderated DIFFERENTLY than virtually any other forum on this site seems to be lost on the Moderator.

Other RV and Workamping sites actually ENCOURAGE discussion about job postings and welcome comments both Positive and Negative.

There are too many employers out there who skirt the law and take advantage of (especially) temporary and seasonal workers. There are some employers who just blatantly scam people. Gladly they are in the minority but we as potential workampers DESERVE the ability to hear BOTH sides, the good and the bad about employers and the jobs they are advertising.

The good and honest EMPLOYERS deserve to have an open forum so that those who have worked there can relate to others what a good job it was and how well the employer treated them.

All of this is denied to us as users and employers by this ill conceived policy of moderation.

It needs to be changed.

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Ok now I feel about this big...apparently it was my connection and my lack of patients causing the problem. I can now see the posts when it initially didn't load I thought It was totaly blocked...my apologies to the board.

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