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- 3_tonsExplorer IIINote that pivoting away from an assumed paradigm takes work and is a particular challenging matter to embrace - a yoke that can be difficult to escape…
3 tons - Timmo_Explorer IIIntelligent people can agree that climate change/global warming/global freeze is a real phenomenon, while disagreeing on what is an appropriate response.
Many people think the answer is to keep the global temperature increase below 2 degrees Celsius AND bring greenhouse gas emissions to ZERO within the second half of 20th century will bring us climate utopia.
To which the elites roll out a vehicle (BEV) which demands large amounts of greenhouse gas emissions to produce and expect others to figure out how to generate clean electricity, while traveling to Climate Change conferences in their private jets.
Laws for thee, not for me. - my440NomadAs you wait your turn to charge up there would be a good amount of energy remaining to run the coach lights for a day or 2 I would think.
- 3_tonsExplorer IIINice try Pianotuna (don’t like the message, shoot the messenger) but be advised that Personalties are of little interest to me…
Make your arguments, no point in taking things so personal…
3 tons - pianotunaNomad IIIDon't you mean "double speak"?
- 3_tonsExplorer III
pianotuna wrote:
3 tons,
Why not just say you don't believe global warming is man made?
Why??…Great Question, because, real ‘Science’ has little to do with ‘one’s own opinion’ - the point here is to remain skeptical and objective by adhering to the tenants of Scientific Methodology, rather than the ‘assumed to be correct’ group-think… - pianotunaNomad III3 tons,
Why not just say you don't believe global warming is man made? - 3_tonsExplorer IIIWith all due respect, merely a ‘popular notion’ lean in science, made possible by the targeting of a subjective historical baseline (often skewed by political Grant monies) with the subtle intent of producing a pre-ordained conclusion - this, made possible via virtual computer simulations ( * ) offering long-term climate projections…In fact, when it comes to matters involving earth’s temperatures, with all to objectively consider, CO2 is one of the least important items among a panoply, but is a reactionary catalyst for Gov’t intervention…In the U.S. this has resulted in a trend towards de-industrialization (a NIMBY syndrome - China Good!!) and social program dependency…
Almost all of these conclusions purposely neglect the chief cause which has been scientifically suggested to be the cycling of cosmic rays (the same source that results in elements - richer in neutrons…) than say iron (element #26), yet by dismissing this all important factor how can these studies claim any validity?? So by simply dismissing this and other more important factors (‘CO2’ by popular consensus the default boogeyman…) that contribute to climate far more than carbon dioxide (such as water vapor - having a far greater coefficient of heat, or say axial and orbital issues), most of what is repeated is merely that which has been implied, reported and repeated…Note the petrified redwood tree stumps which can be found at the Arctic circle (pre-industrialization era), and many examples in world history where a sudden lurch towards a ‘popular idea’ makes for numerous poor outcomes….However, to help underpin your preferred point of view, one might suppose that you too could agree that an ‘objective critical examination’ helps to ensure cogent policy making, eh - It’s a settled Science”!! What makes this so??
(* as with ‘virtual virus’ simulation computer programs - the vagaries of computer modeling)
3 tons - pianotunaNomad III
3 tons wrote:
Very true Sir, and (for the uninitiated:) ) it’s this same realm of physics which plants exploit when harvesting the necessary energy needed for the conversion of CO2 (a plant fertilizer) into Oxygen (a land and sea animal fertilizer) - it’s in this way that a balance of equilibrium is maintained…
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Except that mankind is using too much fossil fuel so the amount of Co2 is getting too high. i.e. no equilibrium any more. - 3_tonsExplorer III
time2roll wrote:
Fusion is currently viable and among the lowest cost. Put out your solar panels to collect the energy.
Very true Sir, and (for the uninitiated:) ) it’s this same realm of physics which plants exploit when harvesting the necessary energy needed for the conversion of CO2 (a plant fertilizer) into Oxygen (a land and sea animal fertilizer) - it’s in this way that a balance of equilibrium is maintained…
The problem is that most of the authentic solutions are weighted down or dismissed entirely due to political gerrymandering and conflicted self-interest, resulting in a parade of red-tape and the emergence of a virtual cottage industry of marginalism and the virtuous sanctioning of ‘For the Children’ styled graft…
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