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jayspi
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Jul 04, 2016

800 watt generator tripping, 3500 watt doing fine

Hi all, I'm having a power problem that's got me stumped.


We've been dry camping in Alaska for almost 3 months in a 2009 Thor Jazz 2780BH 5th wheel. Most of the time we've been using a Champion 3500 watt (4000 watt starting) generator, but we have a more quiet 800 watt Honda clone that we use when we're next to people.

This weekend I got distracted with the 4th and made two mistakes:

1. I let the generator run out of gas. This has happened before with no problems, but this time it tripped a GFCI outlet and I can't get the reset button to stay in. However, everything else was still running fine off the 800 watt generator so I figured I'd troubleshoot the outlet later.

2. Last night I forgot to turn our inverter off and I drained our batteries almost completely.

This morning I went to turn on our 800 watt generator and it immediately overloaded. It was working fine last night. I eventually narrowed it down to one circuit breaker that controls the outlets in the bedroom. It's labeled "Ten" by the previous owner. I have no idea what that means, and I'm not sure what else it controls. However, when I turn on that breaker I also hear a hum that sounds like a fan kicking in behind the breaker box. Once the fan kicks in the 800 watt generator overloads. The breaker box sits under the fridge, but I turned off the fridge and the 12v battery disconnect and still hear the hum, so I don't think it's anything the fridge is doing.

The 3500 watt one still powers everything, but when I turn on that breaker I hear a noticeable change in the generator. That usually only happens when something is pulling 700+ watts, like our Insta-pot, convection oven, or A/C.

Is it possible that I am hearing the converter charger fan? Could the charger be pulling enough power to overload an 800 watt generator since the batteries are completely drained? I don't think they pull that much...

I've tried turning off the battery disconnect and unplugging everything in the RV. The A/C and electric water heaters are off. I even tried turning off the fridge. I'm stumped...any suggestions?

Thanks as always for your help.

8 Replies

  • What converter model do you have? Maybe you need a smaller 30 or 35 amp rated model.
  • We always run the fridge and water heater off of propane when we're off grid,even when we have the bigger generator on.
  • i'll add
    make sure the fridge is switched to LP, not on auto or electric
    the fridge is 300+ watt load when on 120v
  • Not only is it charging the batteries but also the water heater when it kicks on. Way to many watts for that small generator.
  • Thank you all for the quick responses. Whew...I feel a lot better now! I was starting to get worried.

    I'll run the bigger generator for a few hours to get a nice charge then try the little one again.

    Oh, and happy 4th!
  • GCFI Outlets have to have 120V AC power in order to reset.

    800W at 120V is less than 7A so yes charging dead batteries will overload that generator

    Sounds like that breaker (Ten) feeds converter which is trying to charge batteries
    Converter Fan is going to be running full on while converter/charger is trying to bring those dead batteries back up in voltage
  • The converter is overloading the small generator, use the bigger one until batteries are close to 90% charged.

    A WFCO 8900 series converter will draw 950W at maximum load, not considering wire losses.
  • If the batteries are down, the converter is going full out to charge the batteries.

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