A different take on the popular ‘Carbon Dioxide Narrative’

pianotuna wrote:
3 tons,

There are no merits to having global co2 levels this high.

Interesting…How did you come about this absolute certainty??…I only ask this so as to learn how not to be wrong :)

3 tons

HTElectrical wrote:

3 tons wrote:
A cogent construct worthy of serious consideration! (e.g. an anecdote to ‘outcome based’ modeling)…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-nsU_DaIZE

3 tons

The problem I see with this is it was made in 2013. Not very current!!!!

And not very credible.

3 tons wrote:
A cogent construct worthy of serious consideration! (e.g. an anecdote to ‘outcome based’ modeling)…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-nsU_DaIZE

3 tons

The problem I see with this is it was made in 2013. Not very current!!!!

3 tons,

There are no merits to having global co2 levels this high.

nickthehunter wrote:

2112 wrote:
I'll follow up with a discussion I recently had with my 36 year old daughter which somewhat opened my eyes.

Her opinion is us boomers should leave politics relating to the direction of our nations future to the people who will be living in it. We should stop trying to dictate what the world should be after we are all dead. We had our years of control and moments that matter. Technology changes with the seasons and it's not our place to say where it should be applied in regards to their future. We should now enjoy our golden years we planned for all those years and not worry about THEIR future and the world THEY will live in. That's their job now. If they want to go green, let them. It's their mistake to make. Only the future will tell and we won't be alive to see the outcome.

I couldn't argue with her. I realized as long as my DW and I can live out our last 20 years or so in comfort why should we try to define what takes place after that. Just don't burn down the house in the meantime.

A few days after that discussion I talked to my 33 yr old daughter about this. She point blank said we have messed things up enough already. Leave the world to them to clean up. Anyone over 65 should lose their right to drive and vote. We're in their way.

I always admired her sharp directness but I felt I took that one between the eyes.

Maybe we should all just chill out, not be so divided as a nation and let the next generation plan their future.

Now, what you say? Think this post will last an hour?

I have seen some of the ideas “THEY” have had, I’m not impressed.

Agreed, I think of it as ‘generational-acculturation’ - can make it difficult to have a gleeful Thanksgiving Dinner - lol, but gotta Love our kids :)

Most (but not all) ‘current’ Pedigrees aside (i.e. *critical thinking no longer academically stressed), may skepticism and the *Socratic method gifted by our wise fore-bearers now RIP…

3 tons

2112 wrote:
I'll follow up with a discussion I recently had with my 36 year old daughter which somewhat opened my eyes.

Her opinion is us boomers should leave politics relating to the direction of our nations future to the people who will be living in it. We should stop trying to dictate what the world should be after we are all dead. We had our years of control and moments that matter. Technology changes with the seasons and it's not our place to say where it should be applied in regards to their future. We should now enjoy our golden years we planned for all those years and not worry about THEIR future and the world THEY will live in. That's their job now. If they want to go green, let them. It's their mistake to make. Only the future will tell and we won't be alive to see the outcome.

I couldn't argue with her. I realized as long as my DW and I can live out our last 20 years or so in comfort why should we try to define what takes place after that. Just don't burn down the house in the meantime.

A few days after that discussion I talked to my 33 yr old daughter about this. She point blank said we have messed things up enough already. Leave the world to them to clean up. Anyone over 65 should lose their right to drive and vote. We're in their way.

I always admired her sharp directness but I felt I took that one between the eyes.

Maybe we should all just chill out, not be so divided as a nation and let the next generation plan their future.

Now, what you say? Think this post will last an hour?

I have seen some of the ideas “THEY” have had, I’m not impressed.

LOL we're not being cancelled. She certainly wouldn't cancel her 94 yr old grandma.

Her point was the older generation debating and arguing over future technologies that may benefit her in her golden years will be dead and gone by the time it may become reality. Do you really think Millennials believe they can survive without oil? They know they need oil to manufacture products, and whatever they dream up. My son works for Chevron. He's not going to vote himself out of his job.

As for my DD that said we should lose our right to vote and drive, she was being sarcastic. She doesn't want to move back home to become our chauffeur.

Definitely should be more "objective" dialogue concerning the shape of the earth.

Well, I certainly wouldn’t rule anything out - this is why an ‘objective’ dialogue concerning the merits of CO2 should be embraced rather than shunned-away as “it’s a settled science” (how so??) nonsense…

3 tons

Bummer if you've had hobbies "cancelled." Never been my experience. How many years do you figure before they take your keys?