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Battery Tenders

I have two new RV Batteries and want to keep them completely charged. Stupid question I know, but here goes. What size battery tender do I need to get and can I just hook it to one of the batteries in...

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Sam Spade wrote:
Bobbo wrote:
Only, you hook them to the terminals that are NOT wired together.

My 2007 Winnebago came with a cheap Magnatek 7345 single stage converter that always put out about 13.5 volts. It was a battery killer. After about 3 years, I junked it and bought a good 3 stage converter, a PD4655V.


You added information. The original statement by itself is NOT true because you can attach to the wrong terminals.

What brand is the 4655 ? And was it \"plug and play\" or was some modification necessary to get a good fit ??

While my original statement is, to you, not true because you can attach to the wrong terminals, your statement is NEVER true. You said attaching to the terminals of different batteries could \"only\" be done if the batteries were in parallel. You actually used the word \"only.\" In parallel batteries, it is optional. In series batteries, it is mandatory.

Sam Spade wrote:
The advice of connect one lead to one battery and the other lead to the other battery only works in a parallel arrangement.


I prefer the term \"clarified my post\" to \"added information.\" While I thought it was obvious which posts you had to connect to, some here must have difficulty with battery concepts. They must have thought it was feasible to connect to posts that are directly connected to each other with a 2/0 gauge wire.

As is specified in the quote above, I upgraded to a PD4655V.

Google it if you want specifics.

Daddy Bear wrote:
Here's another tidbit of info. I checked the voltage last evening once with the shore power connected and got 14 volts and once w/O shore power connected and they bounced b/t 13 & 14 volts.

There is a phenomenon known as \"surface charge.\" If you charge batteries, then remove the charger, they appear to keep the much higher charging voltage for a while. You can put a temporary load, like an incandescent light on it, or just wait a day or two for the surface charge to dissipate.","body@stringLength":"2154","rawBody":"
Sam Spade wrote:
Bobbo wrote:
Only, you hook them to the terminals that are NOT wired together.

My 2007 Winnebago came with a cheap Magnatek 7345 single stage converter that always put out about 13.5 volts. It was a battery killer. After about 3 years, I junked it and bought a good 3 stage converter, a PD4655V.


You added information. The original statement by itself is NOT true because you can attach to the wrong terminals.

What brand is the 4655 ? And was it \"plug and play\" or was some modification necessary to get a good fit ??

While my original statement is, to you, not true because you can attach to the wrong terminals, your statement is NEVER true. You said attaching to the terminals of different batteries could \"only\" be done if the batteries were in parallel. You actually used the word \"only.\" In parallel batteries, it is optional. In series batteries, it is mandatory.

Sam Spade wrote:
The advice of connect one lead to one battery and the other lead to the other battery only works in a parallel arrangement.


I prefer the term \"clarified my post\" to \"added information.\" While I thought it was obvious which posts you had to connect to, some here must have difficulty with battery concepts. They must have thought it was feasible to connect to posts that are directly connected to each other with a 2/0 gauge wire.

As is specified in the quote above, I upgraded to a PD4655V.

Google it if you want specifics.

Daddy Bear wrote:
Here's another tidbit of info. I checked the voltage last evening once with the shore power connected and got 14 volts and once w/O shore power connected and they bounced b/t 13 & 14 volts.

There is a phenomenon known as \"surface charge.\" If you charge batteries, then remove the charger, they appear to keep the much higher charging voltage for a while. 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