Battery Trojan vs. LIfeline
Ok, i've done my research, measured my area for a 2-battery bank and am looking at these two possibilities: 1) Lifeline - GPL-6CT RV - 2 6-volt AGM batteries - $440.99 + s/h - Total = $1,023.94 ...
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AGM offers -specific- characteristics very different than flooded batteries. Q&A should be reviewed then a decision should be made based on YOUR OWN PERSONAL judgement of the weight of "pluses and minuses" of each type of battery. Either an AGM battery is suitable for your custom needs or it isn't.
Most AGM battery owners DO NOT maintain their batteries correctly. Not even close. Download and study Concorde's user manual for the Lifeline. It applies to all absorbed glass mat batteries.
CAPACITY TESTING MUST BE DONE ON AN INFREQUENT BUT REGULAR BASIS.
Corrective conditioning must be employed. just like with flooded batteries the recipe for a GM batteries reconditioning is specific you have to follow the recipe exactly. The payoff comes in the form of significantly increased battery life. I can say that I have not read any comments in this forum that regard proper care and maintenance of their AGM batteries. Therefore various claims of lifespan may not be entirely valid. Think of flooded batteries owner that never equalizers their batteries then offers A report of the life span of the flooded battery is it accurate of course not neither is a lifespan report of an AGM battery that has not been capacity tested and conditioned according to specification by the OEM.
A report by me regarding how I use my 31 AGM battery would be totally useless and invalid. Why? The batteries primary use is for standby and 99 percent of the time it is being maintained by a float charge. Nevertheless that battery is going to need conditioning charge after a capacity test reveals loss of capacity even though the battery is supposedly being maintained by a correct float voltage. I have decided that a period of 24 months will elapse before the first capacity test. if that battery were used regularly for cycling down to 50 percent capacity I would perform the capacity test every 3 to 4 months. How important is capacity testing and conditioning of an AGM battery? The battery may gain 10 - 80% additional useful lifespan!
Not everyone can or will benefit from a decision to use Rolls & Surrette batteries. Not everyone would benefit from chosing the Lifeline battery. An aware consumer who makes an intelligent choice is difficult to fault. Which is a more intelligent choice an AGM battery that costs $180 and lasts 5 years or an AGM battery that cost $350 and lasts 10 years? Cost per kWh service rendered is the sole manner in which the VALUE of any battery should be judged. How many times have I seen a 3000 dollar vacation destroyed because a person had batteries fail in a very remote camping location and had to return to civilization in order to purchase new batteries? If but reticular. Is no consequence to you then it should not be calculated into your choice of a battery. Down here if my 2 volt batteries should fail I would be forced to pay four times the amount to get replacements in Mexico then what those batteries cost in the United States. This heavily biases the pro's and con's of my battery brand selection.
I have a group 34 battery in my toad. That BCI group size is hard to find down here. If that battery should fail it can easily cost SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS in hotel fees lost time shipping costs and other incidentals in order to purchase a group 34 battery to replace the failed battery. What type and kind of battery would you choose to use under similar circumstances? To declare to an individual that a type of battery is quote not worth the price, is foolish. The buyer's needs and circumstances have to be known and understood before declarative offer of advice would be valid.
if an individual does not have the income or budget to support the choice of a more expensive battery then that point is very high on the list of decisions to take into consideration. But if price is the primary motivation for choosing a battery then that is a horse of a different color. Again and again I harp the point "What seemingly works good for you may not be an intelligent choice for someone else".
I try my best to be extremely conservative about recommending a type or brand of battery to someone else. I first asked questions regarding the persons intended usage of the battery how many times a year or the battery is going to be cycled the length of time for each cycling. The depth of discharge. The capacity and type of recharging employed, and budgetary constraints. If the buyer has room for a pair of group 24 batteries along with height restriction, yet wishes an inverter to power a microwave inverter at maximum power then AGM batteries should be considered. There are just too many factors involved to make blanket declarative statements out of hand.
I can only hope but after reading this post a better understanding can be realized about recommending a particular battery over another. There are just too many mitigating factors involved to make sense of blanket declarative statements.
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Most AGM battery owners DO NOT maintain their batteries correctly. Not even close. Download and study Concorde's user manual for the Lifeline. It applies to all absorbed glass mat batteries.
CAPACITY TESTING MUST BE DONE ON AN INFREQUENT BUT REGULAR BASIS.
Corrective conditioning must be employed. just like with flooded batteries the recipe for a GM batteries reconditioning is specific you have to follow the recipe exactly. The payoff comes in the form of significantly increased battery life. I can say that I have not read any comments in this forum that regard proper care and maintenance of their AGM batteries. Therefore various claims of lifespan may not be entirely valid. Think of flooded batteries owner that never equalizers their batteries then offers A report of the life span of the flooded battery is it accurate of course not neither is a lifespan report of an AGM battery that has not been capacity tested and conditioned according to specification by the OEM.
A report by me regarding how I use my 31 AGM battery would be totally useless and invalid. Why? The batteries primary use is for standby and 99 percent of the time it is being maintained by a float charge. Nevertheless that battery is going to need conditioning charge after a capacity test reveals loss of capacity even though the battery is supposedly being maintained by a correct float voltage. I have decided that a period of 24 months will elapse before the first capacity test. if that battery were used regularly for cycling down to 50 percent capacity I would perform the capacity test every 3 to 4 months. How important is capacity testing and conditioning of an AGM battery? The battery may gain 10 - 80% additional useful lifespan!
Not everyone can or will benefit from a decision to use Rolls & Surrette batteries. Not everyone would benefit from chosing the Lifeline battery. An aware consumer who makes an intelligent choice is difficult to fault. Which is a more intelligent choice an AGM battery that costs $180 and lasts 5 years or an AGM battery that cost $350 and lasts 10 years? Cost per kWh service rendered is the sole manner in which the VALUE of any battery should be judged. How many times have I seen a 3000 dollar vacation destroyed because a person had batteries fail in a very remote camping location and had to return to civilization in order to purchase new batteries? If but reticular. Is no consequence to you then it should not be calculated into your choice of a battery. Down here if my 2 volt batteries should fail I would be forced to pay four times the amount to get replacements in Mexico then what those batteries cost in the United States. This heavily biases the pro's and con's of my battery brand selection.
I have a group 34 battery in my toad. That BCI group size is hard to find down here. If that battery should fail it can easily cost SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS in hotel fees lost time shipping costs and other incidentals in order to purchase a group 34 battery to replace the failed battery. What type and kind of battery would you choose to use under similar circumstances? To declare to an individual that a type of battery is quote not worth the price, is foolish. The buyer's needs and circumstances have to be known and understood before declarative offer of advice would be valid.
if an individual does not have the income or budget to support the choice of a more expensive battery then that point is very high on the list of decisions to take into consideration. But if price is the primary motivation for choosing a battery then that is a horse of a different color. Again and again I harp the point "What seemingly works good for you may not be an intelligent choice for someone else".
I try my best to be extremely conservative about recommending a type or brand of battery to someone else. I first asked questions regarding the persons intended usage of the battery how many times a year or the battery is going to be cycled the length of time for each cycling. The depth of discharge. The capacity and type of recharging employed, and budgetary constraints. If the buyer has room for a pair of group 24 batteries along with height restriction, yet wishes an inverter to power a microwave inverter at maximum power then AGM batteries should be considered. There are just too many factors involved to make blanket declarative statements out of hand.
I can only hope but after reading this post a better understanding can be realized about recommending a particular battery over another. There are just too many mitigating factors involved to make sense of blanket declarative statements.
End Of Rant
Nonsensible text is the result of relying on voice recognition errors
