Battle Born Lithium
In my research to learn more about Lithium batteries, and replacing the flooded 6V's in my rig, I just discovered Battle Born Lithium Batteries (Reno, NV) will soon be introducing a 250Ah battery, due...
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Don, Sandia is one of the diety battery testing (and everyhing else) laboratories in the world.
But a reader has to scrutinize every single parameter of the test parameters at the beginning of a white paper.
This Sandia test is *only* valid for 0% antimony lead calcium chemistry. I know of no way to cherry pick nuggets of important information from this white paper for antimony alloyed batteries. The data difference can be startling. I found no errors in the text (no surprise) as applied to sealed lead calcium or unalloyed pure lead (much rarer) batteries like the Panasonic, Powersonic, et al. Sealed LA battery.
Because consumer grade sealed batteries utilize 1.300 SG electrolyte it skews every single performance point that follows. The calcium or pure lead composition does the same thing.
Temperature scales are distorted because of the different plate compositions.
The pure lead or antimony allow positions the battery closer to Absorbed Glass Mat characteristic than lead antimony. Closer does not mean close.
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The vendor who I represented sold dozens of pallets of these batteries to NASA and the USAF The batteries utilized strict Sandia protocol for usage and maintenance therefore we had near zero aftersale work to do. The batteries did not make me a nickel.
These batteries have since been obsoleted and replaced by far superior in cycling use Glass mat Concorde batteries.
Back to the original issue
When I received a white paper, I studied it for a few days. Frequently I woke up in bed with the the sheaf plasted on my face. When I did the NASA dual voltage chase vehicles I had to present white papers to them for analysis. What sold the job was ingenuity of reverting the vehicle back ro factory original condition without curtting wires, replacing terminals, changing mounting brackets or even the serpentine belt. A bunch of stuff was removed from the Chevrolet one ton utility bed trucks but modifications could not be detected with a magnifying glass. This level of engineering cost them plenty. The alternators were 4800 Leece Neville 160 amp 24 volt, with Transpo 911-24 Emergency Vehicle voltage regulators.
The Battle Borne system is costly enough to allow some degree of surrender to quality. Something as complicated as a management system makes me suspicious that their origin is on the Far East. Not necessarily china. Thailand or perhaps Indonesia or India. Maybe South Korea. Even Taiwan. A to D and D to A interfaces are not cheap and neither is the programming or discretes for power.
But a reader has to scrutinize every single parameter of the test parameters at the beginning of a white paper.
This Sandia test is *only* valid for 0% antimony lead calcium chemistry. I know of no way to cherry pick nuggets of important information from this white paper for antimony alloyed batteries. The data difference can be startling. I found no errors in the text (no surprise) as applied to sealed lead calcium or unalloyed pure lead (much rarer) batteries like the Panasonic, Powersonic, et al. Sealed LA battery.
Because consumer grade sealed batteries utilize 1.300 SG electrolyte it skews every single performance point that follows. The calcium or pure lead composition does the same thing.
Temperature scales are distorted because of the different plate compositions.
The pure lead or antimony allow positions the battery closer to Absorbed Glass Mat characteristic than lead antimony. Closer does not mean close.
***
The vendor who I represented sold dozens of pallets of these batteries to NASA and the USAF The batteries utilized strict Sandia protocol for usage and maintenance therefore we had near zero aftersale work to do. The batteries did not make me a nickel.
These batteries have since been obsoleted and replaced by far superior in cycling use Glass mat Concorde batteries.
Back to the original issue
When I received a white paper, I studied it for a few days. Frequently I woke up in bed with the the sheaf plasted on my face. When I did the NASA dual voltage chase vehicles I had to present white papers to them for analysis. What sold the job was ingenuity of reverting the vehicle back ro factory original condition without curtting wires, replacing terminals, changing mounting brackets or even the serpentine belt. A bunch of stuff was removed from the Chevrolet one ton utility bed trucks but modifications could not be detected with a magnifying glass. This level of engineering cost them plenty. The alternators were 4800 Leece Neville 160 amp 24 volt, with Transpo 911-24 Emergency Vehicle voltage regulators.
The Battle Borne system is costly enough to allow some degree of surrender to quality. Something as complicated as a management system makes me suspicious that their origin is on the Far East. Not necessarily china. Thailand or perhaps Indonesia or India. Maybe South Korea. Even Taiwan. A to D and D to A interfaces are not cheap and neither is the programming or discretes for power.
