Bent crude tops 60 a barrel

John & Angela wrote:

SidecarFlip wrote:

time2roll wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

time2roll wrote:
The best way to reduce prices is to drive an electric vehicle when not in the RV.
Doing my part since 2011. Either be part of the solution or be part of the problem.
JHMO

Run the numbers and overall cost will be far lower with an inexpensive high MPG gas powered car.

The best option is just to stop traveling...so are you part of the solution or part of the problem?

If you are over 40 mpg that certainly helps on reducing oil consumption.
Electric vehicle all but eliminates oil consumption.

This was not entirely about low cost but to reduce or eliminate oil consumption.
Lowest cost is a $100 4 cylinder beater.

Not to initiate a supply chain discussion but, electric vehicles really don't eliminate fossil fuel consumption, they just move the point of fueling from the pump, to the fossil fueled power plant. The exception is, of course a nuclear fueled power plant but then you have the issue of radioactive spent fuel disposal.

I look at an electric car as a 'feel good' thing. Makes a person feel good by not DIRECTLY contributing to the carbon footprint, but they still are, indirectly.

The only alternative would be solar panel recharging but I've yet to see a car festooned with panels going down the road. Maybe someday but probably not in my lifetime.

Not sure a 100 buck 4 banger beater would get lower per mile cost in as much as most 'beaters' I've seen lack even minimal maintenance. So a beater would not be cost efficient. Besides, who wants to drive a beater anyway, let alone use a beater for a toad.

Good morning sidecar. I think it has a lot do to with where the power comes from. So a province or state or even Country that gets all its power from Hydro for example has much better results than one that gets its power from coal and of course there are many. The other thing is, grids in most modern countries are getting cleaner every year. I believe you are in the US so using that as a reference, coal is now only providing about a third of the US grid power. (not an expert, just repeating something I read) Because the emissions of the vehicle depend on the grid this is a good thing as every time the grid gets 1 percent cleaner the vehicle gets one percent cleaner. Electric vehicles can be part of the solution, not the entire solution. They are not yet suitable for everyone's needs but are pretty good at what they do.


Cheers.

I agree 100% that coal is becoming less and less of a fuel for power plants domestically however, new plants and refits are running NG and the abundance of NG is coming from oil fracking operations in PA, Ohio and and WVA. NG plants run much cleaner but again the NG is an offshoot of oil exploration. Urban dwellers can benifit from an electric vehicle. Where we live it's not an option because of the distances involved in just going to the grocery store. Not everyone lives in a densely populated area..

It's my feeling that there is a lot of manipulation concerning fuel costs at all levels.