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SidecarFlip wrote:

time2roll wrote:
Bolt has 230 mile range. You would save a ton on fuel to go to that market 50 to 100 miles away.
Frozen foods must be a pitn. I can't imagine driving an hour one-way to get groceries. DW grew up going 30 miles to the grocery in the big town. Small town grocer was the size of a convenience store about half the distance.

I thought my Focus was small....lol I have a hard time getting in and out of that, I'm 6'1" and a not so flexible anymore 68.

My other issue with an electric vehicle is, how much does running the heater (in the winter) decrease the range. I presume the heater is of the nichrome grid variety and electrically powered, or the AC in the summer.

To answer your question about frozen food, the wife uses a Coleman cooler to put the frozen stuff in, at least for now (in the summer). I'm getting a Dometic Cool Box in the very near future for her car for the market and for the backseat of the truck when we go camping.

I probably could run an electric car and utilize the second meter we have for out electric hot water heater. We still run a second, dedicated meter (at a much reduced rate) for domestic HWH that I could tie into for a plug in. The utility did away with the program years ago but existing customers were 'grandfathered in' and it's a cheap date. Even less than running a NG HWH. You have me thinking....lol

Good afternoon sidecar. I thought I would jump in and answer your question on heat and AC. So the answer is...it depends. Some EV’s use straight electric heat. Others use a heat pump. As far as the effect on range goes, a nice round number is 20 percent effect. Having said that, our car has heated seats and steering wheel so if our butts are warm and my hands are warm we tend to leave the heat around 18 Celsius and it doesn’t affect the range as bad. Both the heat and the AC is instant and you can pre heat it or cool it (turn it on) from your smart phone while it is in the garage. No fumes right. The highest density of EV’s is Norway at something like 35 percent...and it’s cold there. :). A basic 2018 Leaf has about 240 km of range and costs brand new about 30,000 bucks. They are really nice cars and in my opinion bang for your buck is pretty good. If you are going to be in a traffic jam in the heat an electric vehicle is a good place to be. An EV can sit still with the AC on for hours and still get you home.

Anyway, in our Air Force days we used to live an hour from groceries on a little Radar site in Saskatchewan. So yah, I hear yah. Sometimes that’s just the way it is. :)

Stay safe on the road.

Cheers.