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Almot
Explorer III
Jan 23, 2014

Cat heater: how many BTU?

After a few nights at +2C/36F in the morning I realized that even in Mexico a good heater is a must. OEM furnace is a cr-ap, too much noise and propane.

It has to be a vented heated, which leaves only one choice - Platinum Cat. They have models 3,000 BTU and 5,200 BTU. I tried to figure out how many BTU I need, and different calculators give estimates from 2,700 to 15,000 BTU and more. Arnie the engineer only said that 3K model is equivalent to 800W electrical, and 5.2K model - to 1,500W. There are too many variables in the equation, so practical feedback will help as well.

My TT floor plan:

Box interior L=22.5ft, W=8ft, H=6.5ft, total 1,170 cu.ft but about 190 cu.ft of that is taken by fridge, under-bed storage isolated from the interior, and cabinets (the latter will suck some heat in). The rest is a one open space, except for partially isolated rear washroom - I like keeping the washroom door open, but will close it if this will make 3K unit feasible. There is a huge 2" gap under the washroom door, btw.

The bedroom is open - solid line behind the couch on floorplan is a 2-ft wide wall, but the rest of the width is only partially blocked by the couch:

Please ignore the watermarks, this is my model but not my actual rig photo.

The heater will be on the wall near door (see 2nd photo), behind the dinette, so it will radiate towards the couch where I mostly am. And some heat will spread into bedroom at night. I'm aware of the directional heat of cat heaters, but it appears that some heat will spread to the sides as well. Bed doesn't need to be too hot.

Desired temperature rise - i.e. the difference between outside and inside temps - no more than 20C/36F.

Walls: corrugated 0.025 aluminum siding, pink wool inside, 1/8" plywood interior panels, 2" total wall. I suspect that front slanted wall in bedroom has no pink wool - can hear noises more.

Floor - linoleum over 3/8" particle board on joists with the bottom shielded with corrugated plastic sheets. Don't know if there is any wool in the floor.

Ceiling - EPDM over 3/8 particle board on rafters, 1/8" interior panels. Don't know if there is any wool in there.

Windows: single pane, total 15 sq.ft.

To make things more complicated - I like keeping the screen door open for a while after sunset, until it drops below 15C/60F outside, and keep one window open 1" in any weather - though it's never cooler than 2C/36F outside. With Plat Cat being vented, it is possible that my craving for fresh air will be satisfied with doors and windows closed. My head is a good indicator of air quality.

Anecdotal evidence from a neighbor on the same camp with slightly bigger rig and a lot more windows is that 10,000 BTU of his 2-burner non-vented cat heater is "too much", and one burner @5,000 BTU is enough. This is all I have for reference point.

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  • Almot's avatar
    Almot
    Explorer III
    Golden, thanks. Yes, Plat Cat has a thermostat so it re-ignites automatically and runs the exhaust fan then. I plan on keeping low 70s inside when I'm awake and 64 when I'm sleeping.

    I hope there won't be 15F days or nights, the coldest could be 32-35F and only in the last pre-dawn hour, as usual in desert.

    Yes, I know that leaving window open could save my bacon if anything goes wrong in a non-vented heater, but I don't want even to come close to the point when I need to be saved :)... The experience of another neighbor who once saw "stars" in his eyes when running a non-vented cat heater (not Olympian), even though he lived to tell the story and doesn't appear to be impaired any more than before, - this was convincing enough for me.
  • Do you have AC power? You could get a space heater or add a 5000 btu heat strip kit to the AC unit if applicable.
  • Not sure of your outside temps, but if you don't run the propane you bays will not be warmed and if it's freezing your plumbing will freeze and that's going to be an extremely expensive way to save money.
  • Hi,

    I have a 6,000 Btu Olympic Catalytic heater, and it is a 1994 model without problems in all those years. I leave all three vents open a tiny amount, along with leaving open my over the kitchen sink window (I guess if rain blows in, it will go into the sink?)

    I would suggest the larger model, and then if you need more heat, then running the furnace a minimal amount on those rare 15 - 19F days will provide the heat needed to keep it 65 - 70F inside. It also will circulate air into the basement if you have one, to keep the pipes from freezing - (hopefully!)

    Yes I know I am in danger by using a un-vented heater in my RV, but they are well tested and known to not give off much CO gas. Probably less than the stove or oven does.

    I hear the heater that you are looking at can re-ignight itself, so it is not a requirement to leave it on all night long, like mine is. I have to decide about 7 PM to bring it out and run it all night, or not open any vents, and try to keep in as much heat as possible from the prior day and just run the factory installed furnace.
    I am sure that my furnace life is enhanced by having the Olympic heater. If I had to run my furnace all those hours, it might needed replacement a few years ago, but it is still working great.

    Fred.