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Jun 11, 2022

Composting toilet - pros and cons

Considering changing to a composting toilet (we boondock about 70% of the time).
I would like to hear the pros and cons from those that either have one or have done some research.
  • I made myself a separating toilet out of 5 gal bucket, hardware store funnel, detergent bottle, compstable bags and snap on toilet seat with cover. Dont use my black tank anymore and I boondock full time.

  • Nobody has mentioned incinerating toilets.  You can get units that run off propane and 12v power.  I presume that if you are boondocking you are ensuring that you have power and plenty of propane.  Propane goes a long way, and if you have a good solar setup, sufficient 12v power to light the burner and keep the control system on the toilet going should not be a problem.  The benefits are little or no smell, and certainly none after the burn cycle is complete, and all you are left with is hygienically neutral ash, which can be thrown out in any trash.  There is also no mess dealing with a bin of feces mixed with peat moss or wood shavings and no urine canister that you are having to dump.  You do have to keep a supply of liners on hand that hold the contents of the bowl and guide it into the burn pot, but they aren't that expensive in bulk.

    • Grit_dog's avatar
      Grit_dog
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      Nobody has actually mentioned this thread for 3 years either….

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      I would think it would be a pretty large propane usage 140 to 180g per incineration.  propane is the harder thing to add depending what kind of unit you have.  In a cabin type situation I would definatly take that over composting, but I wouldn't buy a composting anyways, but an incinerating toilet is over 5000.00 compared to 1500 for a composting or 2 to 400 for a nice portable toilet.  personally unless there is a big reason not to have a black tank.. stay with that one its free and doesn't use power or propane.  

  • If I ever decided to change from a tank system, which I won't for lots of reasons, I would go with a nice cassette toilet over a composting any day, probably not what you want to hear.

      don't have to cut a hole in the camper for a fan.  compost toilets do stink, but built in fans take the smell outside where you don't notice it but depending where you are camping your niebours might, also added power use for the fan.  there is a good article on the three different setups I'll see if I can find it.  

    with a cassette you could just pull it out and put it down a outhouse if there is one instead of paying to dump along the road.

    a compost you are emptying the urine every day, or it really gets ripe and you have to remember to either manually mix the compost or have a real expensive one that does it for you, oh and toilet paper shouldn't be put in it, that should be a garbage can beside the toiler to deposit your TO when your done wiping, no one talks about the gross things.

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      I've used a cassette a couple times on a rental...worst possible option:

       - You either have to cut a hole in the side to slide it out or you have to carry it thru the RV.

       - No need for a new hole with a composter anyway as you can repurpose the old holding tank vent.

      But no, smell is a non-issue having lived with one for several years. Had he solar fan fail once and never noticed it. 

      Only emptied the urine every 2-3 days (less if using shore side facilities or trees). And just like a cassette which needs to be dumped every couple days, any shoreside toilet is a legitimate place to dump.

      We don't put toilet paper down a traditional RV toilet either (we use real toilet paper that actually works not the RV specific stuff that your fingers go right thru). If you use the lousy RV TP, you can put it in a composting toilet without problem.

      I still don't think it makes sense in an RV. With just a modest amount of effort, we can get a week out of the black tank. If really needed, we could probably double that.

      • StirCrazy's avatar
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        I had one 30 years ago I used in my tent trailer, but ya you need to get a good quality one so it doesn't leak

        you can only reuse the holding tank vent if it is in the right spot.

        as for the toilet paper that's just gross.  sorry I can't get behind that one 

        ya doesn't make sense in an rv to me either, and even in a cabin I would get a incinerating toilet over a composting any day.  the black tank is the best setup, but if people are worried about paying for dumping stations or waiting in line, buy a macerating pump and then you can pump it in to outhouses or such

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    Composting Toilet Pros: 
    Simplicity
    Empty solids after weeks vs every few days - so you stay off grid longer.
    conserve water  - so you stay off grid longer
    Don't Smell unlike chemical toilets / black tanks.
    Less gross to empty (really)
    When you need to empty, you don't have to search or pay for a dump point (but choose your dumpster/bin respectfully of others.)
    Note that you'll need a urine diverter - urine is most of the volume.
     
    Composting Toilet Cons:
    Some require power for a fan (best for long trips or full time use)
    Cost - they're still niche and really agitators help, but boost the cost to make them.
    Fly Strike - no matter how good your seals - it is possible to get flies. 

    If you're looking to boondock, an alternative to composting could be a sealing / bagging toilet, although look for one with a urine diverter, otherwise they're expensive to 'flush'.   

  • Hello! I like using the composting toilets. They are more ecological, and if you use the proper toilets and chemicals, you will never smell anything. When I was looking for a good toilet, I found a great article https://best-composting-toilet.com/. I bought the Thetford Aqua-Magic V Toilet, but if you’re shorter but still heavy, maybe you will want to get the low-profile version of the toilet. If any of you decide to buy this model let me know. I know a great place where you can buy this model at a low price.
  • We had one on the boat for several years.

    For more typical RV use (ie: limited boondocking of a few days or less), tanks are much simpler and easier to use.

    If you will be boondocking where you can't drain the tank for longer periods, they can be advantageous but usually, you will run out of fresh water about the same time as the traditional tank systems fill up.

    Probably the biggest issue is what to do with the urine tank. It needs to be emptied every 2-3 days (assuming 2 people). If you are camping where there are toilet facilities, it's viable as you can pour the liquid in the toilet. Just dumping it on the ground is likely to get you some nasty comments if you are caught.

    Odor is one of the biggest reasons to get one (though not so much of an advantage in an RV...boats are notorious for smelly heads but the plumbing is much different). If there is odor, you are doing something seriously wrong. They are pretty simple to use correctly. No you don't want liquids in the solids tank but they are designed to separate.
    - As mentioned, liquid tank is emptied every 2-3 days.
    - Solids we were good for around a month. Usually, it would be bagged and put in a dumpster (no worse than baby diapers...actually less offensive). Assuming you can let it compost for a couple days, looks and smells like rich earth when emptying. If you can let it fully compost (a couple months), it's great for the flower beds.
  • Don't have one, but my research told me to get the type with the small fan, urine seperator, and manual mixer thingie.
  • From my research, the biggest down side is making sure to keep the urine and feces separated. The urine will smell very quickly. Much quicker than the feces.

    Urine needs to be emptied often (daily ?) While feces covered with a dry compost can go several days, maybe a week.

    If possible, the unit should be stored in a semi-sealed compartment. A small fan blowing up through a pipe and out the roof helps a lot with smell.

    Chemical camp/cassette toilets are another alternative. They require some water and need to be emptied more often the true compost toilets. These can be emptied into a standard toilet.

    I will never own another RV with a black water tank.