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CJW8
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Oct 16, 2015

Costco batteries saved just in time.

I traded in a 5th wheel in early August for a new one. I had two extra batteries kinda illegally mounted in the pass through storage. I removed them for liability reasons and left 2 batteries in the original battery compartment.

I stored these Costco Group 27 batteries in my shop. Changing job locations left little time to care for them. Last week I decided to check them. Voltage read 12.6x on both of them. OK, not down too much for setting for 2.5 months. I removed the caps to check the Specific Gravity. The plates were covered but not deep enough to fill the hydrometer. I added about 1/2 a gallon total to fill them back up. I put them on the 40 amp B&D smart charger (one at a time) and within 30 minutes the charger said they were full and it went into float at 13.2V. Being suspicious of such a short charging time I tested the SG. It was way down on all cells with one end cell being worst than the others. Low cell was 1.200 and all others were 1.225.

I re read MEX's blog on equalizing and the only charger I had capable of 16V was a very old Sears Craftsman wheeled charger. MEX said you also need to control the amps but I had no way to do this nor would I know how to. The charger is capeable of 100 amps but the battery would only accept 2-3 amps at 16.1-3 V. One battery at a time was charged at 16.1-16.3 at about 2-3 amps. When initially turned on the amp meter would spike at about 20 amps but within 5 minutes it was down to less than 5 amps. I checked the SG every hour and after 4 hours, 5 cells were at 1.275 and the 6th cell lagged at 1.265

The process was repeated on the second battery with the same results. batteries were bubbling but not getting warm.

Another hour on the lagging cell would not improve it. 1.265 is just in the green on my hydrometer.

Is this as good as it gets? MEX says one cell will always be the black sheep. Any concern if it is in the green and within .010 of the rest of the cells?

Amperage measured on charger analog amp meter.
Voltage measured with Fluke 87.
SG measured with temperature compensated cylindrical hydrometer.
  • Thanks for the replys.
    Vulcan, I didn't read SG after adding water. I read after first hour on 10V charge but adding water and immediatly testing SG on not good practice.

    BFL13, My B&D doesn't have an "E" mode. It has a Recondition mode. I can't figure out what it does. When it is selected I expected a higher voltage but it was only at 13.4-5. I only watched it there for 30 min or so. Maybe it is a several hour thing.
  • I use the E on the VEC1093DBD 15.7v to get my 6s back to baseline SG and it works with 6s. It does not equalize my "used" 12v T-1275s which work well, but have a variety of SGs (all in the green) after a session or two of that 15.7.

    Back when I had 27s like the OPs, I had a heck of a time getting them back to baseline SG if I ever did. Got very frustrated with those things. They didn't "gas" like a 6v and it was just really hard to get their SGs back up from the red zone after doing some 50-90s.

    The OP's 27s are apparently "saved" but the only real way to know how good they are is to use them a few times and see if they keep coming back to the SGs they have now. The lower cell probably means something in the future, but too early to know if it matters now.
  • The large amount of water you added probably was skewing your SG readings.

    Leaving them on "float" charge for 24 hours or so probably would have given you entirely different results.
  • BFL13 reports the 15.7v equalization mode on the B&D40 works well, but one might have to do it more than once.

    I know lead acid batteries do not have a memory, but it certainly seems like those that have been sitting and then top charged, respond better to a mid level of depletion, followed then by a full charge.

    The Screwy 31 taught me not to screw around with 15.xx for equalizing. There was one instance where what couldn't be done in 3 to 4 hours at 15.7v, took 20 minutes when bumped upto 16v.

    Later on I only backed off from 16v if it took more than 6.2 amps to get the 130 AH battery up there after a full absorption charge cycle, or amps started rising without a voltage increase.

    Nothing quite like spinning that desired end voltage dial and some thick copper between source and battery.
  • You've recovered to 99% of whatever you would normally have with capacity. I've found that mixing charge levels from say 2 amps to 40 amps for short duration will tend to bring SG up to the top. As you use and charge the batteries, your one low cell may recover to equality with the rest.

    One thing that is unknown is the original baseline SG. Some batteries have an SG baseline that is higher than 1.275. Since your batteries have been used and you've recovered to 1.275, that is about as good as you can do.

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