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- pnicholsExplorer II
road-runner wrote:
'd bet that they could be designed to be 53dB, and that hardly anybody would buy them because of the increased size, weight, and added cost. I just bought a 700 watt Earthquake ig800 generator, about the same power as the ex650, but a lot smaller and at 21 lbs, less than half the weight. So far, it runs well. Louder, yes, but it fits easily into my small storage compartment and doesn't wrench my back lifting it in an out like the ex650 would. Or compare the ex650 to the eu2000i: Approximately the same size and weight, but a bit more than double the power from the eu2000i. So for the ex650's lower noise you're approximately doubling the weight or halving the power. I don't mean this as a criticism. If I had the storage space and didn't have a problem handling the weight, I would also pick the ex650 over the Earthquake ig800 for the reduced noise. I suspect, however, that few others would be willing to prioritize that noise level over the size/weight and power differences.
An excellent perceptive post above, and ........ you've just nicely reinforced a point I've tried to make many times that it seems others usually don't grasp:
When wanting the power of a Honda EU2000i inverter generator in an RV, why not buy two Honda EU1000i generators, instead, and use them in parallel? That way you can lift a ~29 lb. generator (1000i) twice, instead of a ~46 lb. generator (2000i) once. The double ~29 lb. lift is probably easier on the body than the single ~46 lb. lift.
P.S. Talk about "heavy", I also have a Honda EX1000 generater that I do not take in the RV for two reasons, even though it puts out more watts than the EX650 - 1) it's a too loud, and 2) I don't want to lift it!:
http://www.tappedin.com/hop/html/litegen.htm - MEXICOWANDERERExplorer
- You shop online
- You read consumer Reports
- You chat in forums
- You sleep on it for weeks
- Finally you are convinced you have purchased the most amiable machine to offend the campground least
Then the brother-in-law of the guy camped next to you shows up... - I want just a 12v charger if it comes to a new model. Size weight and sound of a Honda 1000 with 50 amp 14.5 volt output. Maybe even a timer to shut down as desired.
- road-runnerExplorer III
pnichols wrote:
I'd bet that they could be designed to be 53dB, and that hardly anybody would buy them because of the increased size, weight, and added cost. I just bought a 700 watt Earthquake ig800 generator, about the same power as the ex650, but a lot smaller and at 21 lbs, less than half the weight. So far, it runs well. Louder, yes, but it fits easily into my small storage compartment and doesn't wrench my back lifting it in an out like the ex650 would. Or compare the ex650 to the eu2000i: Approximately the same size and weight, but a bit more than double the power from the eu2000i. So for the ex650's lower noise you're approximately doubling the weight or halving the power. I don't mean this as a criticism. If I had the storage space and didn't have a problem handling the weight, I would also pick the ex650 over the Earthquake ig800 for the reduced noise. I suspect, however, that few others would be willing to prioritize that noise level over the size/weight and power differences.
The above is why we continue to use an old obsolete Honda suitcase generator that never exceeds a 54dB noise level with any load we place on it. It never is louder than 54dB.
It's too bad that modern Honda small portable inverter generators can't be designed to remain around 53dB at maximum output. - robert_at_hondaExplorer
NinerBikes wrote:
OK this question is for Robert at Honda.
Which Eu series generators run a steel sleeve in the bore, and which do not?
The EU1000i is a 100% aluminum block/bore. It has a 24-month warranty.
All other EU-series have aluminum blocks and cast-iron cylinder sleeves. They all have a 36-month warranty.
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I work for Honda, but the preceding is my opinion alone.
Robert@Honda - NinerBikesExplorerOK this question is for Robert at Honda.
Which Eu series generators run a steel sleeve in the bore, and which do not? - pnicholsExplorer II
otrfun wrote:
IMO, advertised db levels are generally useful and reflective of realworld performance as long as the load level is also factored into the db comparison.
Exactly!!!
IMHO, that's why many folks with their Honda portable generators claim that they are so quiet - they rarely run them much at loads anywhere near their maximums. In other words, they are paying for a generator that is most of the time way too large/powerful just to get low noise during the bulk of their usage.
The above is why we continue to use an old obsolete Honda suitcase generator that never exceeds a 54dB noise level with any load we place on it. It never is louder than 54dB.
It's too bad that modern Honda small portable inverter generators can't be designed to remain around 53dB at maximum output. - otrfunExplorer II
Desertboy wrote:
It's my understanding the EU1000 does not use an iron cylinder sleeve like the rest of the Honda EU-series generators. It's possible this may have an impact on the EU1000's longevity.
Would the Honda 1000 be enough to operate a 5000 BTU window unit? And one other question, I read on another message board that these small Generators only lasted about 800 hours before they needed a rebuild/ Is that true? - SoundGuyExplorerThanks Robert ... my response is the same here as it was in this other concurrent thread on the subject ...
... just the answer I expected! Obviously, some such as C.B. who have been so absolutely convinced otherwise are going to have to revise their thinking on the subject. ;) As for me, I'm only still confused by the Honda Canada website info that declares noise measurements are taken at "1.5 metres to 7 metres" ... huh? :@ :h - robert_at_hondaExplorerOkay, here's some straight dope.
The current Honda generator brochure has a typo, incorrectly listing the distance for noise measurements as 3 meters. Actual measurements are taken at 7 meters (23 ft). This error will be corrected in the next version of the generator brochure.
FYI, published measurement data is unchanged, e.g., noise measurements were indeed taken at 7 meters.
No firm word yet from Honda R&D on an exact method or protocol used for noise measurements.
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I work for Honda, but the preceding is my opinion alone.
Robert@Honda
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