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pianotuna wrote:
Hi Mex,
Not quite what you asked--but still worth thinking about:
"On average, a conventional car creates more the twice as much carbon pollution as an electric car. Even in the state that gets almost all of its electricity from burning coal, an EV still pollutes less than a typical conventional car. Assuming a 10 year useful life, an average conventional car will spew out 66,000 pounds more carbon pollution than an average electric vehicle. That’s 33 tons, folks."
This is included the co2 from manufacturing the vehicle.
In making comparisons like this, IMHO it's best to compare the two all the way: Be sure to consider the carbon footprint to dispose of each type of vehicle and all of it's component parts.
The rosy picture may change then ... not sure, though. ;)JRscooby wrote:
MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Poor countries like Mexico will never revert to 100% electric motor vehicles.
So we have to retract hyperbole to what the USA does.
Please provide a link that guesstimates what effect if any an all-electric USA would have on the CO2 PPM world-wide?
The countries that have the best chance to become mostly electric, IMHO, would be a country that has a dictator that understands science, has lots of sun, and enough money to put up the panels and batteries. Of course, such a dictator would understand most transportation could be avoided.
JR, that is a very sad take on life.
Dictators only care about ONE person, themselves.
They do not care if their "subjects" under them are starving to death, freezing to death, have PERSONAL transportation, ect.
The only thing Dictators are worried about is keeping themselves in power by any means they can.. That IS done by stripping away ALL means of the citizens to have a better life, have more things, and freedoms..
It is a street that you and I never want to be on.
Making EV the only means of personal transportation EV IS a great "tool" which has a high risk of being used to REDUCE personal freedom..
EV REQUIRES to either be 100% dependent on some sort of electrical grid whether it is public or personal.. We have the technology now days to fully track not only where you vehicle goes but how much you can go.. would not take much to do so..
With ICE, it is more difficult to control people, how far they go, where they go, as long as there are gas stations or even some sort of liquid fuel..
Control.. A power which can be easily abused..- Enough of the world according to Mexicowander........... bye
free radical wrote:
Batery chargers LOL
Trampys spending goes to more important things,
Facebook ads
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/08/16/donald-trump-spending-texas-facebook-ads/
???????
Is where a candidate's campaign spends their funds on social media pertinent to this thread somehow?
Why would a resident of another country care even if it was pertinent?- Tesla cannot save the entire world. Just working on sustainable personal transportation from solar to battery to wheels.
For all the naysayers this would be a good time to work on all those other areas that need improvement.
MEX, feel free to get involved with the Amazon rain forest issues. Otherwise why not let Tesla do its thing while you do yours. - Oxymoron 101
A benevolent dictator.
And a trillion-dollar effort that burdens one single country and reduces CO2 by .0000000123% isn't the most intelligent program.
Sell the program to the Soviet Union II, China, India, Brazil, the middle east and central America and that will convince me.
There are countries that would starve to death if petrodollars vanish.
Ultra liberal states like Kaliforniastan, Massachusetts, and Oregon justify their piousness because their efforts have yielded 0.0000000123% overall effect on the CO2 PPM. What they refuse to see and what they refuse to acknowledge is the infinitesimal gain it would amount to unless 95% of the industrial world accomplishes the same percentage or greater.
"Oh my goodness! Yout bucket of water saved the forest and therefore the entire known liberal world" Teslas are sooooooooo today. Like Michelle Obama's Hamster grade school lunches.
As thousands of acres of the Amazon rainforest goes up in smoke every day for slash burn then abandon farming.
You can take the AOC midnight train to Tokyo then proceed with group chanting and aromatherapy.
My father used to label this preposterous level of disconnection Fart In A Whirlwind philosophy. MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Poor countries like Mexico will never revert to 100% electric motor vehicles.
So we have to retract hyperbole to what the USA does.
Please provide a link that guesstimates what effect if any an all-electric USA would have on the CO2 PPM world-wide?
The countries that have the best chance to become mostly electric, IMHO, would be a country that has a dictator that understands science, has lots of sun, and enough money to put up the panels and batteries. Of course, such a dictator would understand most transportation could be avoided.- Last month
1.7 gallons of gasoline
68 kWh of electricity
1117 liters of city water
35 gallons of purified water
4.5 pounds of beef
25 eggs
And a ton of vegetables.
So as far as a carbon footprint I am holier than a converted *****.
No cigarettes no beer no booze no whoopee drugs.
I am totally absorbed in my workbench hobbies. And perfectly happy with my medical progress. I saved six thousand dollars by having cataract surgery done in the states, and will save fifty-five thousand dollars on my spine surgery. Don't know how much on the arthroscopic surgery on my left hand. Hyaluronic acid injections in both shoulders is a specialty only available near the border.
Then I get to put the (literal) ton of newly purchased tools and inventory into a shipping container send everything home. Then go back to work on yachts and RVs. But this time with a PayPal account. There is an acute shortage of folks who can effectively correct marine systems in the states and zero in Mexico. MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
The fragility of the world is scary. For instance, if the Gulfstream current fails Europe will starve. How many millions of acres of US farms are dependant on rainfall, not irrigation.
How much suffering would the RV industry go through if sudden depletion of plastics cause?
My entire gripe, pages, and pages worth centers around people who do not think. Important people. Elected people. The chosen few.
Don't worry! Put your worries on my shoulders! Like smart battery chargers?
Hundreds of millions of budget dollars for people who don't want it or people who do not deserve it.
Batery chargers LOL
Trampys spending goes to more important things,
Facebook ads
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/08/16/donald-trump-spending-texas-facebook-ads/MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Let me give you a parallel wacko parody It is based on an actual experience I had some ten years ago.
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We must stop raising cows for slaughter...
Why?
They eat ten times the protein they yield
And they emit methane cow farts -- a major contributor to greenhouse gas. You have to learn to eat tofu, nuts, and other raw foods
(In a pig's ***)
But the flavor of a burger cannot be duplicated. Have you tried a burger made over charcoal mesquite?
Ewwwwwwww I've hated the flavor of meat since I was a baby
Meaning cows are meat and meat has eyelashes? How about gator meat or frog legs?
Slash and burn farming makes more CO2 than 10,000 cars.
Rip up parking asphalt in Sacramento government parking lots give 'em bicycles and leave a zero carbon footprint. Buy a Tesla for Navin Gruesome.
I always thought cows are vegetable,honestly
What do cows eat,,grass and hay right,so they are made of vegies.
Never understood the vegan logic of avoiding meat.
Every human needs meat to be healthy,especialy when young.
Been like that since humans arose.
Cant change human dna
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/news/a42492/109-year-old-woman-bacon/
