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Mbiallas
Explorer
Aug 20, 2016

Errrrrrr! My AC is acting up.

I am at a loss here. There could be a couple things contributing to the problem so I will lay it all out and apologize for the length of this message in advance. This ac unit has been acting up since we purchased the camper a year ago (camper is a 1998 model). Sometimes it is fine and sometimes it really goofs up. So the unit seems to be getting power just fine as the fan turns on with no problem then after a couple minutes there is a click and sometimes the compressor clicks on and blows cold. Sometimes it doesn't come on at all but the fan continues to blow... It's just cold. When the compressor does come on and it blows cold it will only stay on for a few minutes before cutting back off even though it is burning up hot inside the camper and the thermostat is set to 70.

Second is that the plug on the main power cable (30amp on ac power 6/3oow, no longer on generator) for the camper gets really really hot. I replaced the plug itself a year ago and noticed today that it looked burned. So I opened it up and the neutral and hot were partially melted together. I cut off about 16 inches and rewired the plug but noticed that the copper inside the white wire was black while the other two were normal color.

This whole thing has made what was supposed to be a fun weekend turn in to a huge disappointment. You folks have been really helpful in the past and I really appreciate it. Thanks for reading my rant and please let me know what you think may help or if you need any additional info.

Matt

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  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
    Explorer III
    What make/model?

    One of the things that happened to me... Suddenly my Front A/C (Carrier Air V not that it matters) was tripping the 20 amp breaker... Not the thermal in the compressor but the 20 amp breaker that feeds it.

    Well, I applied the old clamp on ammeter.. Yup it was drawing over 20 amps just before CLICK (breaker operating as designed).

    So, next morning before the giant outdoor oven fired up I went topside and oped the covers.. Looked at the condenser (hot) coils (the inside where you can't see with the covers on) and said AH-HA.. Cleaned everything, re-covered, want back inside, pressed button, COOL.

    Sadly that's not the problem with it today.. Today's problem is different.. And Tomorrow it will be fixed.. Sort of.. It will become a Coleman Mach with Carrier controls sometime Tomorrow.. That'll fix it.
  • Check your condenser coil for blockage...you have to remove the a/c shroud to access the inside surface...the outside surface may look clean while the inside is blocked solid with dirt.
  • You have 2 problems.
    1. REPLACE the complete 30 amp cord. The wiring should NOT be discolored. PERIOD.
    2. You have an AC problem. IF the compressor starts, then the Start capacitor is not your problem. The odds are you have a defective Compressor (20 years old). So, you replace the AC unit
    3. CHECK your breaker Box wiring and breakers. Since you had the 30 amp cord melted , you may have loose burnt connections there also. Doug
  • I would recommend replacing the compressor capacitor.

    Also get a Kill-A-Watt from Amazon.com they are about $18. You plug this into one of your RV receptacles (mine is in the kitchen where I can watch it while running the A/C unit.) If below about 107 volts, don't run the A/C there is a problem.

    If the voltage is say 118 volts, and running just the fan brings it down below about 111 volts, then you can not safely run the compressor, as the voltage will drop even farther. The root cause is the 30 amp plug you are plugging into is very weak, overheating your plug end, and melting the wires. You probably only had 100 volts to the compressor when it was cutting off, due to a 10 - 15 volt drop across the plug to the camp post.

    What I did was I was living in a campground with only 50 amp receptacles, so I changed my cord end to a 50 amp. I can still only use up to 30 amps due to the main breaker inside my RV, but the 50 amp plugs are in much better shape than the 30 amp plugs. (that get overloaded, and the brass contacts inside become weak).

    So I would do two things. Buy a 50 amp plug for the end of your cord. Any hardware store will have them, it is the same as a 50 amp home stove receptacle plug in. RV parts store will have the same thing - more expensive probably.

    Get a 50 to 30 amp adapter, for use in RV parks without a 50 amp service, and a 30 - 15 amp that you probably already use when in your home.

    Then order the Kill-A-Watt. If you find that you typically camp in areas below 110 volts with the A/C on, you probably will also need a Hughes Autoformer, it will boost the incoming voltage by about 12 volts when needed (if input is less than about 112 volts).

    For now, until you can move to a RV site with a good 30 amp plug in, I would leave the A/C off. Perhaps they can move you to another site, or the cord will reach to the neighbor's site - if they are using the 50 amp, then the 30 amp probably will be empty.

    I carry a 50 to 30 amp adapter, because of the problem you described, I was at a campground with 30 and 50 amp plug ins. My volt meter indicated low voltage (108 I think) and it was 105 outside. I plugged in my voltage booster and 50 to 30 amp adapter (the cord end was very hot) and when I ran the A/C my voltage was then 125 volts. With the A/C off, it jumped to 132 volts,

    Also your refrigerator on electric will add about 3.5 amps to the power consumed through your power cord. Changing it to gas will make it colder, and increase your RV voltage by about 1-2 volts. On electric, it is only about 900 Btu's while on gas it is 2,200 Btu's to the boiler that runs the refrigerator.

    Good luck,
    Fred.
  • the evap and condenser fins might need cleaning, sounds the compressor is heating up and out on overload
  • Sounds like the compressor is overheating and tripping a thermal safety. Check all of your wiring in your electrical panel, specifically looking for loose neutrals. Check the wiring in the AC unit for loose connections also. If you have a bad connection volts will fall and amps will rise causing heat in the motor and eventually trip the self resetting safety. At least that's my theory...

    Only do this if you are comfortable working on wiring...

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