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csamayfield55x's avatar
Jul 30, 2015

Generator voltage question

I have a polaris 2800 Generator we have been using for about 10 years on our old TT. With the new 5th wheel I wanted to be careful hooking it up and trying things. I ran into a weird issue when I checked the outlets with a tester. It is showing an open ground but everything seems to operate just fine. Do I need to externally ground this gen? I have never thought about it before.

The other thing I noticed is that I don't get full voltage on the hot leg of the plug. What I am getting is about 60 volts on hot and 60 volts on neutral. Again, everything seems to operate just perfect! I do get 120 testing from hot to neutral though

Any thoughts on this? I am going to twin eu2000's next spring but for now this is all I have

Chris

6 Replies

  • When messing around with the Kubota I wear nitrile mechanic's gloves. It is three-phase with neutral bonded to the case. Nitrile mechanic's gloves have saved my, er, life, more than once. Lool around for the best price.
  • RoyB's avatar
    RoyB
    Explorer II
    You may however end up with various GFCI faults when using the GENERATORs and OPTIONAL INVERTERs in your particular trailer wiring setup.

    I have a 1500WATT PSW INVERTER here that when I plug the trailer Shore Power Cable using a RV30A-15A Adapter cable into its 120VAC receptacle I trip some GFCI receptacles in the trailer. The fix of course is to BOND the 120VAC receptacle on the OPTIONAL INVERTER front panel. I have another 600WATT OPTIONAL PSW INVERTER from the same manufacturer that does not trip any of my trailer GFCI circuits (Go figure)...

    This may also happen in some trailers when you plug the shore power cable using a RV30A-15A adapter cable directly into the generator 120VAC receptacle.

    If you are not experiencing any of these GFCI faults I would not BOND the Generator or Optional INVERTER...

    Roy Ken
  • When using gen thru surge protector would get reverse polarity now and then in a cycle, called surge gard and they said not to worry is normal....when using generator and I would still be protected against low or high voltage...????
  • totally understand now, that makes sense. I had just never checked it before and was surprised to the lack of ground but not totally. Knew someone here would have an answer for me

    Chris
  • It was the same way for the past 10 years, so no diff now.
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
    Explorer III
    Open ground is common on portable generators. Code does not require bonding.

    If you understand the reason for the safety ground, you will understand why,, You may choose to stop reading here.

    On the "Mains" power (Power mains) neutral is bonded to ground, in fact at one time due to wire shortages they used the GROUND as neutral.. Some places are still wired that way.

    THUS if there is a hot-to case short on the tool you are holding YOU become the path to ground and thus neutral (the "Return" path though that really is bad use of the word) and .. Well. for most folks,, been nice knowing you (I'm strange.. I throw when shocked, or at least I used to Good thing too).


    THus the safety ground which is hooked to case., IT takes the shock for you, trips the breaker/blows the fuse and protects you.

    But with the portable generator THERE IS NO GROUND, period.. The ground is NOT a return path, and thus there is no danger. You are protected.

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