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bondj007
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May 02, 2016

Help! Water pump pressurizing when using hot water tank.

Decided to be a little proactive and replace my water pump. After install of my SHurflo 4008 I determined that my check valve on the hw tank needed replacing. That statement is simplifying 2 hours of water system tests, looking for leaks etc) Went to replace it and of course couldnt get it out like most people have experienced - so pulled out the guts of the check valve with pliers and put another new plastic check valve in line. New check valve works fine. New pump works fine.
Here's the problem. When pressurizing up the system, everything works perfectly if I have the hw bypass 'on'. RUn a tap, water comes out, turn the tap off, pump shuts off immediately. If the hw bypass is 'off' - and i'm now using water from the hw tank - after closing a tap, the pump will run for 3-5 secs before reaching pressure and shuts off.
So - hw bypass on - the pump will shut off as soon as i close the tap. Hw bypass 'off', pump will run for 3-5 secs after closing tap. What's going on here? I'm at wits end after an 8 hr project. Help appreciated guys - I can't solve this one and we're trying to go out this coming weekend!

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  • for anyone following along I'm posting every piece of info i find in my troubleshooting. Bubbles present in outlet and inlet, pump still shuts off immediately when hw bypass is on. Still 5 sec delay to pressurize when hw bypass off. Air bubbles going into hw tank causing? I'm reaching now I know....
  • when opened up for 4 or 5 minutes, hammering goes away. SHut off the last tap and the pump shuts off immediately. Perfect. However - Repeat opening another tap and within a short time - hammering comes back - open everything, let run, hammer goes away. Just noticed that through flex tubing, I can see a persistent stream of pea sized air bubbles on the outlet side of the pump. Not persistent on inlet side. ???
  • Every time I've had water hammer, there is air in the lines. Open up everything and let it run for a few minutes while.
  • Thanks for the diagram Old-Biscuit - Additional notes - have flex pipe on inlet and outlet. Have tried 'trial and error' on adjustments with pressure settings on pump - little change - shortening of 3-5 sec pressurization to 2-3 secs maybe. Water hammering is on 4-5 ft hard pex line after looped flex outlet line reaches hard pex distribution lines. So frustrating! Maybe I'll try staring at it some more.
  • blangen wrote:
    Air in the HW tank. Pull the pop-off lever and let the air out. Or open the highest valve and let run to remove air.


    Air pocket in WH SHOULD be there..it is by design.

    Water swells when heated.
    Water can NOT be compressed...air can
    W/O air pocket pressure will increase inside hot water tank/system causing TPRV (Temp/Press Relief Valve) to weep

    Air Pocket is good




    On Edit:

    Shurflo 4008 is a 55 psi pump

    You may need to use 'flexible' suction/discharge lines IF pump is plumbed with hard PEX (discharge line to cold water header)

    And you may need to install an accumulator tank
  • Thanks for quick reply blangen - Thought that might be it but no luck - hot water taps run in trailer for several minutes - no air pops coming out any longer. Other symptom - Lots of water hammer on the cold inlet pipe to hw tank. (5 ft section) Vicious rattling has me concerned a seal will be compromised over time.
  • Air in the HW tank. Pull the pop-off lever and let the air out. Or open the highest valve and let run to remove air.

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