a few friends were having the discussion of whose truck is better! lol one guy said his is because his truck will not sag when his 5er is hooked up, but says the other guys truck is weak cause when he hooks up his bumper pull it sags. both have different "brand" trucks. both 3/4 ton diesel trucks. lol I am just trying to compare the two on a level playing field.. the bumper pulls tongue weight is unknown, the 5er is in the 2000 lbs range. and no im NOT getting into a truck discussion. they all have their good and bad points, and everyone has their own preference. lol like I said I just want some ammunition for the next time we are sitting around having a few cold ones and the discussion comes up.