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Dec 26, 2020

How about THIS instead of using more and more energy?

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory chemists have developed a new flexible “aerogel” — stuff so light it has been called “solid smoke” — described as the world’s lightest solid material and best solid insulating material.

“The new aerogels are up to 500 times stronger than their silica counterparts,” said Mary Ann B. Meador at the annual meeting of the American Chemical Society.

“A thick piece actually can support the weight of a car. And they can be produced in a thin form, a film so flexible that a wide variety of commercial and industrial uses are possible.”

Flexible aerogels, for instance, could be used in a new genre of super-insulating clothing that keeps people warm in the cold with less bulk than traditional “thermal” garments. Tents and sleeping bags would have the same advantages.Home refrigerator and freezer walls insulated with other forms of the material would shrink in thickness, increasing storage capacity.

Meador said that the aerogel is 5–10 times more efficient than existing insulation, with a quarter-inch-thick sheet providing as much insulation as 3 inches of fiberglass. And there could be multiple applications in thin-but-high-efficiency insulation for buildings, pipes, water heater tanks and other devices.

NASA envisions one use in an advanced re-entry system for spacecraft returning to Earth from the International Space Station, and perhaps other missions. Re-entry vehicles need a heat shield that keeps them from burning up due to frictional heating from Earth’s atmosphere. Those shields can be bulky and heavy. So NASA is exploring use of a heat shield made from flexible aerogel that inflates like a balloon when spacecraft enter the atmosphere. Meador said the material also could be used to insulate spacesuits.

Scientists produced the stronger new aerogels in two ways. One involved making changes in the innermost architecture of traditional silica aerogels. They used a polymer, a plastic-like material, to reinforce the networks of silica that extend throughout an aerogel’s structure. Another involved making aerogels from polyimide, an incredibly strong and heat-resistant polymer, or plastic-like material, and then inserting brace-like cross-links to add further strength to the structure.

Less greenhouse emissions. More comfort. Less money and energy spent on petroleum. Fewer bird killing windmills, or 3 eyes and six legged nuclear radiation? Mandate double pane insulated safety glass in all RVs. If a QUARTER INCH of this stuff can do all this, what would one inch do? Give companies who manufacture it MASSIVE TAX BREAKS. Our congress and environmentalists act like they have double-digit Intelligence quotients. You have to be smarter than the problem, so maybe they're overwhelmed. How many hundreds of pounds of conventional insulation are contained in a 37' RV?
  • MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

    Less greenhouse emissions. More comfort. Less money and energy spent on petroleum. Fewer bird killing windmills, or 3 eyes and six legged nuclear radiation? Mandate double pane insulated safety glass in all RVs. If a QUARTER INCH of this stuff can do all this, what would one inch do? Give companies who manufacture it MASSIVE TAX BREAKS. Our congress and environmentalists act like they have double-digit Intelligence quotients. You have to be smarter than the problem, so maybe they're overwhelmed. How many hundreds of pounds of conventional insulation are contained in a 37' RV?


    Vertical wind generators dont kill birds,why not build those?

    https://windside.com/
  • Mex, I am always surprised when I read your posts. Very few make any sense to any current RVer but they are always entertaining.
  • EXACTLY LIKE ten dollar per watt solar panel evolvement. The only thing our congress is interested in is tax tax tax tax tax. Say TAX-FREE and it's like showing a crucifix to a vampire.

    It would take a majority vote mandate by the public to overcome government and energy income dependent industry billions of dollars of resistance.

    Take an RV in hot weather, proper use of this insulator would result in a NINETY PERCENT reduction in energy consumed. How would you like to use 10 gallons of LPG and comfortably pass 2 weeks at -40F ??

    The only issue is THERE's NO MONEY IN IT. Who wants to invest in a zero-sum gain industry?

    This is what makes me such a skeptic. We pollute with absurd levels of CO2, chop down forests, dig immense holes for coal, then feebly enact electric car mandates.

    Reminds me if the indian truism of
    Indian build small fire stay close and warm
    White man build big fire, stay back and freeze.

    Engineer buy 300 dollar goose down comforter and stay warm
    Fool pay 300 dollars a month for propane and still need blankets.
  • I believe that aerogels have been around since WWII and have been used in space craft for decades. They work great but are very very expensive. So what's new here?

    Ah yes from Wiki:

    Aerogel was first created by Samuel Stephens Kistler in 1931, as a result of a bet with Charles Learned over who could replace the liquid in
  • Very cool (no pun intended)! Really a game changer, if it can be produced in commercially viable quantities and at a reasonable price point.

    If I recall correctly, similar materials were used in some of the "asteroid flyby" missions, in order to cushion the impact of space particles that were being gathered by the spacecraft. But I had no idea that aerogels could be insulators.