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Geraldo_de_La_C's avatar
Dec 24, 2021

Intermittent brake failure

I have been experiencing unusual brake failure in 2 vehicles, 2001 Ford F150, 2004 Dodge 1500. Both trucks have perfectly good brakes and operate as expected. Except in the following cases:

1 With a one day change in elevation from sea level to 8000 feet, the hydraulic system for the brakes in both trucks has intermittently failed completely, with the emergency brake being the primary way to stop the vehicle. This condition lasts for a few hours and then disappears as rapidly as it appeared.

2 The brakes function normally except during the occasional panic stop. 99% of the time the brakes function as expected however 1 % of the time even with full two foot pressure on the brakes, from about 5 to 10 mph - no lock up, no ABS vibration, simply a slow gentle stop - right into the vehicle in front of me.

Fluid level - check, Brake pads and calipers - check, rotors - check. No visible leaks.

Remember, the brakes are in working order, and they work properly 99% of the time.

I am at a loss to understand why this is happening. Any suggestions are welcome

12 Replies

  • I would start with a complete fluid flush with a pressure bleeder. Second would be to replace the master cylinder.
    Maybe just do both at the same time.

    By failure I assume the peddle went to the floor without the expected braking action.
  • Back to basics.

    Pull the calipers and brake pads, inspect the slide surfaces of the pad ears.

    The pad ears must glide across the slide surfaces with only light friction, often times the pad ears are slightly oversized and are hard to move by hand. Add in a little rust and the pads stick and freeze in the caliper. Depending on where they stick you can get no brakes or brakes work on and off or badly stuck they will not release from the rotor. I find I have to grind down the pad ears some to get them to slide easily by hand.

    Inspect the caliper pins, this is a known part that often sticks, caliper pins should easily move in and out by hand, can get replacement pins at your local auto parts store.

    Inspect the caliper hoses for kinks or damage, sadly these hoses often get damaged when mechanics fail to support the caliper and let it dangle in mid air when servicing the brakes. This causes the hose to kink internally which is not noticeable from the outside. Sometimes the hose deteriorates on the inside and collapses enough to block flow. For vehicles the age you are talking about, replacing the hoses may be in order just because of age.

    Baring hose or physical pad/caliper you could have calipers that are way past due replacement time, some caliper cylinders use a plastic piston which over time deteriorates and gets stuck intermittently.

    If all of those checks out fine, then perhaps your master cylinder may need replaced..

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