Inverter Swap 1000 for 2000watts

MrWizard wrote:

mention transfer switch on this forum and the first thought is external, and switching between generator and shore

Not true for me, but for all I know I'm the only one. I totally understand your overall point however. I've for instance have given up on the correct definitions for "neutral" and "surge protector". On the forum they mean one thing, and everywhere else, something different. Agreed this is a sideshow and the purpose of the thread is to assist landlordy with his problem. I'm hoping the freedom swap is the complete fix.

OK i stand whipped by a wet noodle

but the point being, can't we be smarter than the marketing people {we usually B**** about}

mention transfer switch on this forum and the first thought is external, and switching between generator and shore

calling the relay inside an inverter 'the transfer switch' muddies the waters
it doesn't specify function or clearly state the situation

I apologize for draging this off topic
i was trying to clarify LL circumstances and situation

Anybody offended by terminology debates or beating dead horses just skip this post.

The best I can tell, "pass through" is a feature/capability provided by a device called a "transfer switch" or "transfer relay".

Looking at one document per manufacturer, I found the following:

Outback: "AC transfer switch"
Magnum: "Expanded transfer relay"
Xantrex: "Built in transfer switch"
Aims: "AC auto transfer switch"
Tripp-Lite: "Automatic line-to-battery transfer switch"

Aims in one case further says: "built in 10A transfer switch for pass through capabilities".

The Xantrax Pro Series inverters are labeled "Pro Series Inverter with AC Pass Thru". On the Xantrex web page for this product it says "UL 458 approved MSW Inverters with Transfer Switch and Hardwire Input.", and "A built-in transfer switch automatically detects when generator or shore power status changes to ensure power is always available".

http://www.xantrex.com/power-products/power-inverters/pro-series-inverters.aspx

I can't see that it's wrong to say the Freedom 10/20 has a built in transfer switch.

yes..
and almost every other brand calls it a 'pass thru'
which does supply a better description, and help prevent confusion

and it only does one function choose between shore or inverter

its not a disconnect, its not a protection device,

it appears LL got lucky, the 230v took out the control circuit for the relays and prevented it from being passed thru to the RV which would have caused more damage

MrWizard wrote:
Landlordy
Does not have a transfer switch
He does not have an on board generator
The relay inside the freedom inverter, is the inverter pass through
If he has shore power it passes thru, to the RV while the charge section , charges the batteries
If no shore power, the inverter is on to make 120vac
Yes it's a relay
But technically the function of a transfer switch is a choose between (2) external power supplies
And a pass thru switch allows power from external source to pass thru
A device capable of creating is own power
I know the functions are similar, but not exactly the same
Calling the inverter pass thru , a "transfer switch"
Creates the type of confusion shown above

His shore cord comes directly into the freedom INVERTER
Not a normal install, but the inverter is built for 30 amp input

Okay so when my inverter/charger is off shore power will not pass through to the coach. I allways that that was odd. Also Literture say's say's no external transfer switch required as it has a 30a transfer switch built in. So if the OP plugs his shore cord into the back of the inverter he won't get 30amps??? At least I wont with mine because it has 4 20a 3 prong plugs Please correct me if I'm wrong. As I'm always trying learn the correct ways these systems operate.
Thanks

Whatever it is in reality, the Freedom Owner's Manual calls it a "transfer switch" or "internal transfer switch" in the Introduction section.

Landlordy
Does not have a transfer switch
He does not have an on board generator
The relay inside the freedom inverter, is the inverter pass through
If he has shore power it passes thru, to the RV while the charge section , charges the batteries
If no shore power, the inverter is on to make 120vac
Yes it's a relay
But technically the function of a transfer switch is a choose between (2) external power supplies
And a pass thru switch allows power from external source to pass thru
A device capable of creating is own power
I know the functions are similar, but not exactly the same
Calling the inverter pass thru , a "transfer switch"
Creates the type of confusion shown above

His shore cord comes directly into the freedom INVERTER
Not a normal install, but the inverter is built for 30 amp input

landlordy wrote:
In my particular case the transfer switch is inside the inverter. Its a unit that performs like 4 functions.

My 2000 watt inverter/charger has the transfer switch is built in also, but my understanding is that the transfer switch prtects the inverter and the coach?? Also My WELDING CABLE is 18" long from battery banks to the inverter. You didn't say how far your inverter is from the battery

In my particular case the transfer switch is inside the inverter. Its a unit that performs like 4 functions.

How long are the cables from batteries to the inverter? you said something about batteries in the back. and I think iverter in front? Shouldn't the transfer switch have saved the 1000 watt inverter from frying with the 240v?