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LifePo4 Voltage at .5C - .6C Discharge

Our two GC2's (with 100% charge) drop below 12v while under a 100a - 125a load. When they reach 50% (at 100a - 125a), voltage drops into the low 11's while under-load.

What kind of under-load voltage can I expect with two 100ah LifePo4's (paralleled) with a 100a - 125a load? At 100% charge? At 10-20% charge?
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What kind of under-load voltage can I expect with two 100ah LifePo4's (paralleled) with a 100a - 125a load? At 100% charge? 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BFL13 wrote:
. . . EDIT-- beware of the polarity with those kind of wire sets. They can reverse in the middle depending. (eg try to join two 12v plugs end to end and get the polarities right :( )
Once these Anderson-type connectors (shown in Intinerant1's pic) are properly terminated/installed, it's impossible to get the polarity reversed after the fact. They only plug-in one way. We used 3 or 4 of the 175a versions for our dc2dc charger install. They're *very* rugged, well-built connectors.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-04-02T15:30:10.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-04-02T15:30:10.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":977},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3495872/message:3495951","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"533","rawBody":"
BFL13 wrote:
. . . EDIT-- beware of the polarity with those kind of wire sets. They can reverse in the middle depending. (eg try to join two 12v plugs end to end and get the polarities right :( )
Once these Anderson-type connectors (shown in Intinerant1's pic) are properly terminated/installed, it's impossible to get the polarity reversed after the fact. They only plug-in one way. We used 3 or 4 of the 175a versions for our dc2dc charger install. They're *very* rugged, well-built connectors.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3495951_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:63866":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:63866","uid":63866,"login":"BFL13","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-02-15T14:46:18.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:63866"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495950":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3495950","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3495950":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:63866"},"id":"message:3495950","revisionNum":1,"uid":3495950,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3495872"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3495872"},"subject":"Re: LifePo4 Voltage at .5C - .6C Discharge","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495950"},"body":"With jumper cables to the LFPs, it might be possible for voltages from the truck to be wrong for your LFPs? 15v at first? It depends on the truck I guess.

At least with the DC-DC charger method, you can pick the right voltage and it has a buck/boost in it to bring the truck's voltage up or down to the chosen LFP charging voltage. The truck's voltage would get to 13.x soon after starting, reducing the amps? You can pick 14.6, 14.4, 14.2, or 14.0 and it stays at that doing constant X amps (40 for the 40 amper. ISTR a 60? that would pull 90a) It does not do a Float voltage with LFP. You turn it off manually or if you have it wired that way, by turning off the ignition.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-04-02T15:12:20.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-04-02T15:12:20.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":977},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3495872/message:3495950","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"692","rawBody":"With jumper cables to the LFPs, it might be possible for voltages from the truck to be wrong for your LFPs? 15v at first? It depends on the truck I guess.

At least with the DC-DC charger method, you can pick the right voltage and it has a buck/boost in it to bring the truck's voltage up or down to the chosen LFP charging voltage. The truck's voltage would get to 13.x soon after starting, reducing the amps? You can pick 14.6, 14.4, 14.2, or 14.0 and it stays at that doing constant X amps (40 for the 40 amper. ISTR a 60? that would pull 90a) It does not do a Float voltage with LFP. You turn it off manually or if you have it wired that way, by turning off the ignition.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3495950_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:2596":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2596","uid":2596,"login":"Itinerant1","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2017-05-23T06:30:07.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2596"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495949":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3495949","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3495949":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2596"},"id":"message:3495949","revisionNum":1,"uid":3495949,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3495872"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3495872"},"subject":"Re: LifePo4 Voltage at .5C - .6C Discharge","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495949"},"body":"My thought is if it needs the emergency charge I want to through ever ounce of current at it without harming the truck no limits on the lfp end for me anyways, the truck won't though 500a (1C). Lol","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"197","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-04-02T14:17:01.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-04-02T14:17:01.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":976},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3495872/message:3495949","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"197","rawBody":"My thought is if it needs the emergency charge I want to through ever ounce of current at it without harming the truck no limits on the lfp end for me anyways, the truck won't though 500a (1C). 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I have the 20 amp size (Truck alternator not huge) by the TC batts and the input to the charger is via 7-pin #4 (some wiring mods there)

The charger itself has an LFP profile you can pick if it suits, and there is no paralleling with the truck batts. Your truck's alternator could take the 40 amper I expect. The charger pulls more than it delivers so a 40 amper would pull maybe 60 amps

Only thing is the Renogy needs 12v to operate, but it can get that from the truck side if so wired. That way it would work if the trailer side 12v were dead.

EDIT-- beware of the polarity with those kind of wire sets. They can reverse in the middle depending. (eg try to join two 12v plugs end to end and get the polarities right :( )","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-04-02T14:11:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-04-02T14:11:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":976},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3495872/message:3495948","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"809","rawBody":"There is also eg, the Renogy DC-DC charger. I have the 20 amp size (Truck alternator not huge) by the TC batts and the input to the charger is via 7-pin #4 (some wiring mods there)

The charger itself has an LFP profile you can pick if it suits, and there is no paralleling with the truck batts. Your truck's alternator could take the 40 amper I expect. The charger pulls more than it delivers so a 40 amper would pull maybe 60 amps

Only thing is the Renogy needs 12v to operate, but it can get that from the truck side if so wired. That way it would work if the trailer side 12v were dead.

EDIT-- beware of the polarity with those kind of wire sets. They can reverse in the middle depending. (eg try to join two 12v plugs end to end and get the polarities right :( )","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3495948_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495947":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3495947","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3495947":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2596"},"id":"message:3495947","revisionNum":1,"uid":3495947,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3495872"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3495872"},"subject":"Re: LifePo4 Voltage at .5C - .6C Discharge","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495947"},"body":"
BFL13 wrote:
T

Just curious--can you get 12v to the rig via 7-pin with your set-up if the trailer batts are 'dead in the water' for any reason? Will that light up the Magnum?

-With the trailer batts ok, do you mind paralleling the truck battery with the LFPs via 7-pin? I worry about mixing battery types, but I am told here that is not an issue really. What do you do? Thanks.


I have been thinking about this option but not from the 7 pin. The 2016 Ford diesel truck with dual batteries is always there. Front compartment is always accessible so the nose of the truck could be put near. I was thinking something like from that video from mortons on the move that was posted about the comparison of agm to bb, where he showed the cables from engine compartment to rear of truck camper batteries. Maybe big quick disconnects to something permanent mounted on either end in the engine bay of truck & 5th wheel compartment, for emergency purposes.

Or something like this?
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BFL13 wrote:
T

Just curious--can you get 12v to the rig via 7-pin with your set-up if the trailer batts are 'dead in the water' for any reason? Will that light up the Magnum?

-With the trailer batts ok, do you mind paralleling the truck battery with the LFPs via 7-pin? I worry about mixing battery types, but I am told here that is not an issue really. What do you do? Thanks.


I have been thinking about this option but not from the 7 pin. The 2016 Ford diesel truck with dual batteries is always there. Front compartment is always accessible so the nose of the truck could be put near. I was thinking something like from that video from mortons on the move that was posted about the comparison of agm to bb, where he showed the cables from engine compartment to rear of truck camper batteries. Maybe big quick disconnects to something permanent mounted on either end in the engine bay of truck & 5th wheel compartment, for emergency purposes.

Or something like this?
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Thanks for the excellent report. I would have used my stove top as I don't have an alternative heater. 1 failure in over 1000 days is impressive, to say the least.

Is there a reason you don't go with an electric start genny (with its own battery)?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-04-02T13:10:18.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-04-02T13:10:18.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3495872/message:3495945","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"281","rawBody":"Itinerant1,

Thanks for the excellent report. I would have used my stove top as I don't have an alternative heater. 1 failure in over 1000 days is impressive, to say the least.

Is there a reason you don't go with an electric start genny (with its own battery)?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3495945_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495944":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3495944","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3495944":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:63866"},"id":"message:3495944","revisionNum":1,"uid":3495944,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3495872"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3495872"},"subject":"Re: LifePo4 Voltage at .5C - .6C Discharge","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495944"},"body":"Thanks for the long report! (I added your original post to my question while you were posting that)

So the inverter/ charger had lights at that point, so it did have 12v then, but not known where it stood during the \"no 12v\" time? It was off as shown by having the OEM settings afterwards?

Just curious--can you get 12v to the rig via 7-pin with your set-up if the trailer batts are 'dead in the water' for any reason? Will that light up the Magnum?

-With the trailer batts ok, do you mind paralleling the truck battery with the LFPs via 7-pin? I worry about mixing battery types, but I am told here that is not an issue really. What do you do? Thanks.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-04-02T12:49:45.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-04-02T12:49:45.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":302},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3495872/message:3495944","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"691","rawBody":"Thanks for the long report! (I added your original post to my question while you were posting that)

So the inverter/ charger had lights at that point, so it did have 12v then, but not known where it stood during the \"no 12v\" time? It was off as shown by having the OEM settings afterwards?

Just curious--can you get 12v to the rig via 7-pin with your set-up if the trailer batts are 'dead in the water' for any reason? Will that light up the Magnum?

-With the trailer batts ok, do you mind paralleling the truck battery with the LFPs via 7-pin? I worry about mixing battery types, but I am told here that is not an issue really. What do you do? Thanks.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3495944_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495943":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3495943","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3495943":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2596"},"id":"message:3495943","revisionNum":1,"uid":3495943,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3495872"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3495872"},"subject":"Re: LifePo4 Voltage at .5C - .6C Discharge","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495943"},"body":"
BFL13 wrote:
We always are off grid except at home, so redundancy is good. Don't want to have to bail and go home early.

Itenerant1, how did the sequence work when you had your BMS shut-down when one of your cells \"went rogue\"? In particular, how did you get your Magnum to light up so you could use its charger with the House batts shut down?


This all happened while I was away working in a different state and wife was with the 5th wheel and going on 1,017 days of continuous boondocking and never an issue.

Cells didn't go rouge they shut off charging acceptance due to low cell temp (bms doing exactly what it was designed to do). The batteries were still able to power the rig \"but\" without charging time is against you. Once the cells warmed up above 32f solar started to charge but this was in the afternoon when it started charging. Generator ran out of gas and she couldn't get it going again. Next night before me coming home she called me and said the system shutdown \"no 12v power\". She had no idea why. This happened in Nov 2019 while in Kansas with nighttime lows between 7-11f, daytimes just above freezing (cold front dropped down).

Temporary solution... she winterized the trailer (we carry rv antifreeze with us during cold months), pulled out the big buddy heater.

Cause of the system shutting down was one of the senseboards on the cells stopped communicating with the cpu, it did exactly what it's supposed to do...shutdown (one of many safety features, if it doesn't see 20 cells it shuts down). Why did the senseboard die, I don't know why...age, electronic failure or just sheet happens?

When I returned I picked up a new eu2200i generator on the way back. I wanted to upgrade the eu2000i anyways this just sped that up.

First thing I did was put a multimeter on the pack and it was showing 13.28v so it was ok and had a charge. I talked to my installer and he explained how to bypass the cpu (bms) \"but\" doing this the 20 cells were unprotected.


Now for the next part of the problem, the batteries were not being charged from the Magnum inverter/ charger or solar. After talking to the installer and trying different things...nothing, no charging as if the system was dead but I could see the lights on the equipment showing power? In the meantime plugged in a car battery charger (10a) to the generator so not to kill the batteries while thinking about my options.

After thinking about this overnight, the next morning I went and looked at the Me-Arc setup menu for the system and everything was not as it was set up originally, it cleared itself back to factory settings. After 15 minutes of resetting all of the setup menu from before these issues started the system was back on line charging properly from both the inverter/ charger and solar. I was told that Magnum equipment will remember settings if this were to happen...well it didn't.

This was a inconvenience for sure, more for the wife than me because she was with the trailer and I was in a hotel room that night.

Leason learned from this experience.
Keep generator full of gas. ;)
How to bypass cpu.
Don't go off the word of others, check everything including settings.
Carry extra senseboards now.
Don't put off insulating compartment, tapped into furnace heat duct.
Everything thing is written down now with pics if I'm away and the wife has to do it. Good thing I wrote the settings down that were programmed originally because 3 years later I wouldn't of remembered them all. Hint to all write your settings down, you never know.;)

I like to think I was prepared but this showed the wink links that needed attention to. :(

Something else between \"dropin\" and a more diy system is the control over exterior components verses the sealed box. It won't be the end of the world just some inconvenience, you hope anyways.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-04-02T12:21:54.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-04-02T12:21:54.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":301},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:3495872/message:3495943","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"4071","rawBody":"
BFL13 wrote:
We always are off grid except at home, so redundancy is good. Don't want to have to bail and go home early.

Itenerant1, how did the sequence work when you had your BMS shut-down when one of your cells \"went rogue\"? In particular, how did you get your Magnum to light up so you could use its charger with the House batts shut down?


This all happened while I was away working in a different state and wife was with the 5th wheel and going on 1,017 days of continuous boondocking and never an issue.

Cells didn't go rouge they shut off charging acceptance due to low cell temp (bms doing exactly what it was designed to do). The batteries were still able to power the rig \"but\" without charging time is against you. Once the cells warmed up above 32f solar started to charge but this was in the afternoon when it started charging. Generator ran out of gas and she couldn't get it going again. Next night before me coming home she called me and said the system shutdown \"no 12v power\". She had no idea why. This happened in Nov 2019 while in Kansas with nighttime lows between 7-11f, daytimes just above freezing (cold front dropped down).

Temporary solution... she winterized the trailer (we carry rv antifreeze with us during cold months), pulled out the big buddy heater.

Cause of the system shutting down was one of the senseboards on the cells stopped communicating with the cpu, it did exactly what it's supposed to do...shutdown (one of many safety features, if it doesn't see 20 cells it shuts down). Why did the senseboard die, I don't know why...age, electronic failure or just sheet happens?

When I returned I picked up a new eu2200i generator on the way back. I wanted to upgrade the eu2000i anyways this just sped that up.

First thing I did was put a multimeter on the pack and it was showing 13.28v so it was ok and had a charge. I talked to my installer and he explained how to bypass the cpu (bms) \"but\" doing this the 20 cells were unprotected.


Now for the next part of the problem, the batteries were not being charged from the Magnum inverter/ charger or solar. After talking to the installer and trying different things...nothing, no charging as if the system was dead but I could see the lights on the equipment showing power? In the meantime plugged in a car battery charger (10a) to the generator so not to kill the batteries while thinking about my options.

After thinking about this overnight, the next morning I went and looked at the Me-Arc setup menu for the system and everything was not as it was set up originally, it cleared itself back to factory settings. After 15 minutes of resetting all of the setup menu from before these issues started the system was back on line charging properly from both the inverter/ charger and solar. I was told that Magnum equipment will remember settings if this were to happen...well it didn't.

This was a inconvenience for sure, more for the wife than me because she was with the trailer and I was in a hotel room that night.

Leason learned from this experience.
Keep generator full of gas. ;)
How to bypass cpu.
Don't go off the word of others, check everything including settings.
Carry extra senseboards now.
Don't put off insulating compartment, tapped into furnace heat duct.
Everything thing is written down now with pics if I'm away and the wife has to do it. Good thing I wrote the settings down that were programmed originally because 3 years later I wouldn't of remembered them all. Hint to all write your settings down, you never know.;)

I like to think I was prepared but this showed the wink links that needed attention to. :(

Something else between \"dropin\" and a more diy system is the control over exterior components verses the sealed box. It won't be the end of the world just some inconvenience, you hope anyways.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":3,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3495943_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:336183":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:336183","uid":336183,"login":"3_tons","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-03-13T16:17:19.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:336183"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495942":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3495942","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3495942":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:336183"},"id":"message:3495942","revisionNum":1,"uid":3495942,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3495872"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3495872"},"subject":"Re: LifePo4 Voltage at .5C - .6C Discharge","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3495942"},"body":"“Don't class A with generators installed have an inverter/ charger with some sort of remote displays that can have auto start when voltages drop to x amount or is this a BLF13 black hole all the stars went into misalignment, sky is falling and it's time to assume the fetal position.”

After several threads of twisted gobbledygook I see it more as a ongoing misinformation crusade to promote ‘off-topic’ SiO2’s - after all with all these make believe nagging maladies associated with LFP’s, who in their right mind would ever consider one - lol!!

Soooo much interest (subjective disparaging) from someone who’s an ardent campaigner pushing SiO2’s - lol :) !!

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After several threads of twisted gobbledygook I see it more as a ongoing misinformation crusade to promote ‘off-topic’ SiO2’s - after all with all these make believe nagging maladies associated with LFP’s, who in their right mind would ever consider one - lol!!

Soooo much interest (subjective disparaging) from someone who’s an ardent campaigner pushing SiO2’s - lol :) !!

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