LIthium battery upgrade - Complete!
For folks interested in an upgrade to lithium batteries, we've just completed our blog post on our upgrade to 400Ah of RELiON LiFePO4 batteries. http://www.jenericramblings.com/2017/01/17/rv-upgra...
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The USER can rectify under and overcharge problems with flooded or absorbed glass mat.
The USER can dictate the charger type, capacity, and function.
The USER checks water and maintains a flooded battery
NO ONE (clear enough?) can dictate viability of cell to cell lithium charge and discharge control. This is a hidden automated process.
If ONE. (1) Singular cell to cell control module goes bad. Not only does the battery STOP WORKING 100% dead, the malfunctioning controller DESTROYS THE CELL.
And there is not a DAMNED THING you or I can do about it. Strike that. No one will know the cell controller is bad until the lights go out.
Are cell to cell controllers "fixable"? Shirley you jest.
So insanely costly expense is demanded to over-grade design cell to cell monitoring and control. But the USER will not have a clue as to an impending malfunction.
I designed hideously durable voltage regulators for circmnavigation. 150 amp 600 volt power transistors, 1 amp 1,000 volt driver transistors. 5x over-rated mil-spec resistors and zener diodes. Gold plated connections. Capacitor dampened to the max. Fast react fuses backing Klixxon breakers. National Controls Corp epoxy sealed timers (adjustable for time). Then I threw in an extra power and an extra driver transistor.
At sea a failed reverse osmosis system, GPS, or even autopilot can mean death. Yet some INSIST on using cruising sailboats as a reference platform to recommend Lithim Ion.
Got ANY IDEA. Any idea at all of the number of Lithium Ion batteries those 50 foot ketches and 60 foot sloops haul? Redundancy and backup. Substitution options? A big sloop may have 3,000 ampere hours in batteries, 200 amperes of alternator. A generator with a 100 amp alternator of its own and then a 200 ampere AC battery charger.
To compare the viability of such a vessel's battery system with someone (RVer) seeking a single LiIon battery is ludicrous. Many of the vessel owners I troubleshoot for have incomes in the 700K+ annual range. Have a problem? Make port and have a substitute replacement flown in on DHL.
Any new EXTREME limited public exposure entity from mechanical to electrical to medicine, will be rife with ecstatic endorsements, stories of miracles, life changing enhancement and stuff that would make even Herb Tarlek blush.
Lithium Ion cars contain HUGE and EXPENSIVE monitoring and control systems.
Forget about well documented limitations on performance and damaging accidental abuse. RON POPIEL has stepped into the TV kitchen with a new 8,000 in 1 gadget and the phones are going to start ringing.
:)
The USER can rectify under and overcharge problems with flooded or absorbed glass mat.
The USER can dictate the charger type, capacity, and function.
The USER checks water and maintains a flooded battery
NO ONE (clear enough?) can dictate viability of cell to cell lithium charge and discharge control. This is a hidden automated process.
If ONE. (1) Singular cell to cell control module goes bad. Not only does the battery STOP WORKING 100% dead, the malfunctioning controller DESTROYS THE CELL.
And there is not a DAMNED THING you or I can do about it. Strike that. No one will know the cell controller is bad until the lights go out.
Are cell to cell controllers "fixable"? Shirley you jest.
So insanely costly expense is demanded to over-grade design cell to cell monitoring and control. But the USER will not have a clue as to an impending malfunction.
I designed hideously durable voltage regulators for circmnavigation. 150 amp 600 volt power transistors, 1 amp 1,000 volt driver transistors. 5x over-rated mil-spec resistors and zener diodes. Gold plated connections. Capacitor dampened to the max. Fast react fuses backing Klixxon breakers. National Controls Corp epoxy sealed timers (adjustable for time). Then I threw in an extra power and an extra driver transistor.
At sea a failed reverse osmosis system, GPS, or even autopilot can mean death. Yet some INSIST on using cruising sailboats as a reference platform to recommend Lithim Ion.
Got ANY IDEA. Any idea at all of the number of Lithium Ion batteries those 50 foot ketches and 60 foot sloops haul? Redundancy and backup. Substitution options? A big sloop may have 3,000 ampere hours in batteries, 200 amperes of alternator. A generator with a 100 amp alternator of its own and then a 200 ampere AC battery charger.
To compare the viability of such a vessel's battery system with someone (RVer) seeking a single LiIon battery is ludicrous. Many of the vessel owners I troubleshoot for have incomes in the 700K+ annual range. Have a problem? Make port and have a substitute replacement flown in on DHL.
Any new EXTREME limited public exposure entity from mechanical to electrical to medicine, will be rife with ecstatic endorsements, stories of miracles, life changing enhancement and stuff that would make even Herb Tarlek blush.
Lithium Ion cars contain HUGE and EXPENSIVE monitoring and control systems.
Forget about well documented limitations on performance and damaging accidental abuse. RON POPIEL has stepped into the TV kitchen with a new 8,000 in 1 gadget and the phones are going to start ringing.
:)
