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Kamphiker
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Apr 10, 2019

Lost 12V Ground 1 circuit Interior Lights, Ideas on finding

While Changing out Vent fan Motor in Lavatory I lost power to the circuit. This also includes 5 other Overhead Lights on same circuit.

Fuse is not blown (I have a PD4645 Converter/ charger).

In running test with my Multimeter, IF I attach a temporary ground (Length of wire/alligator clips) to the Negative side of the wire intended for the vent fan to the PD4645 case (Only because this is the only close ground source I can find, I show proper voltage (12.6 Plus depending on PD4645 charge Mode).

Second Test I ran was measure voltage through the ground side of bad circuit I get 12 Volts measured on the ground side...... Isn't this an Indication of a shorted ground ?

When I attach the Temporary ground the 5 lights work as they should (I don't know about the New Vent Fan Motor as I have not tried to put back in operation).

For the life of Me I can't find the location of fault in either the Lights (I have pulled them out of the ceiling and the appear to have no shorted wires etc) OR the wiring I can access behind the fixtures.

I Have a PDF of my RV electrical schematics from Winnebago for my Motor home (WF324V) and I'm having problems finding the connectors on the wiring harness as they don't seem to be in indicated locations.

One question is do I simply need to re-establish a good ground on this 1 circuit without finding the Break ?

is there a easier way of finding the proper ground wire other than probing all the Ground wires (I know they are the WHITE colored wires) ?

Accessing the wiring within the ceiling not possible as is the wires for the circuit that I believe run from the ceiling down the interior wall. The bundle of wires appear to run under the bed which I have to remove to access. the wire bundle at this point appears to be 20 or more individual wires.

Open to words of wisdom

Getting ready for vacation next week and this is kicking my butt.

Thanks in advance
  • After many hours of tracing wires, I finally found how Winnebago ran the 2 wires from the 5 lights & fan (daisy chained yes). They were run down between the shower stall and the back wall of the RV.

    I had to remove a small access panel for access to the plumbing under the shower pan. I was able to use coat hanger wire and grab the 2 wires and pull close enough to opening to run test on the ground side and there is continuity from this point to the lights etc.

    Tracing from this point to the grounding source is my next step but I'm not going to put a lot of effort as the Bundles of wires in the harness is vast & runs in 2 different directions.

    I'm opting at this point to just cut the Wire splice in new wire and run to a ground and call it a day. I'm running out of time before my trip starts and have to many other items to get done.

    Thanks to everyone on giving some direction.
  • Kamphiker wrote:
    I was able to use coat hanger wire and grab the 2 wires and pull close enough to opening to run test on the ground side and there is continuity from this point to the lights etc.

    Tracing from this point to the grounding source is my next step but I'm not going to put a lot of effort as the Bundles of wires in the harness is vast & runs in 2 different directions.



    Wow, if I had to guess, I might say you NEVER had a good ground from that wire. That perhaps you were always just pulling the ground from the fan mount (mounted into metal?).
  • Found the grounding problem / location.

    Ring terminal that attaches to grounding plate on the MH Frame rail was not attached. Not only this one, but there are 12 ground wires with ring terminals that connect to same 3/8" Bolt. 9 out of the 12 basically fell off as i was checking them. Corrosion is the culprit.

    Really a blessing in that by the number of miles I'll be putting on the vibrations etc from the roads would have caused the others to have failed.

    Now tomorrow I have to find some either at Lowes / HD or Grainger.

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