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MEXICOWANDERER
Dec 18, 2017Explorer
To do a proper audit, we must include the process liability between the two elements in the discussion.
The men go to work, start up heavy industry machines that consume energy and then gather raw material. The raw material is shipped using energy to plants that use energy to convert raw material into finished product. This main entail a dozen or more elements in the chain -- all of which use energy. From earth to solar panel, from earth to battery internals -- how much energy is consumed?
Neither product either raw or finished contains latent energy (still with me?)
Latent energy is when you can toss a match into it and it burns or explodes.
Let's eliminate two or three hundred extra energy consuming links in this long chain...
When finished products are ready to be mated and go to work, for hotel purposes the chain is complete.
When the finished product is intended for distribution it opens up another huge process of energy consuming links in order for the product to be shared. Power line transmission, and distribution. Ho much do transformers cost? Ever audit the process of converting bauxite to finished aluminum? It's pure electricity.
What is hopefully dramatically altered is the production of carbon dioxide and residual remains of petroleum combustion.
Do a workup on the amount of emissions produced in NIGHT TIME power generation. Hydroelectric, and nuclear are the main contenders for massive power generation. Geothermal is cost intensive (ruining heat exchanger components). Got a lot of falling water nearby? Want hourglass shaped structures on your horizon?
NOTHING IS FREE except if you would find a lottery ticket.
Historically when O2 levels climbed because of drought, massive die-offs in tropical rain forests occurred triggered by low levels of sun activity (happening now) and regional drought, the die-off releases more CO2 than man has produced since the beginning of time. This is historic rhythmic climatic cycling -- it's been happening for millions of years.
Compared to a rain forest die-off, electric car usage is not even a drop in the bucket. What is important is to acknowledge if artificial CO2 production will alter climate enough to trigger drought and a mass tropical die off.
The term GLOBAL WARMING IMHO is farcical. It belittles the importance of preventing an artificial tropical drought across O latitude land masses.
A thorough understanding, meaning a NON POLITICAL SELF SUPPORTING audit must be conducted to actually compare the difference in CO2 manufacturing between electricity and "electric" anything must be conducted. Isn't going to happen in a politically charged arena.
While people chant slogans and argue, our oceans are being sterilized by overfishing. Clear-cutting of marine life.
I can only sit back and wonder.
The men go to work, start up heavy industry machines that consume energy and then gather raw material. The raw material is shipped using energy to plants that use energy to convert raw material into finished product. This main entail a dozen or more elements in the chain -- all of which use energy. From earth to solar panel, from earth to battery internals -- how much energy is consumed?
Neither product either raw or finished contains latent energy (still with me?)
Latent energy is when you can toss a match into it and it burns or explodes.
Let's eliminate two or three hundred extra energy consuming links in this long chain...
When finished products are ready to be mated and go to work, for hotel purposes the chain is complete.
When the finished product is intended for distribution it opens up another huge process of energy consuming links in order for the product to be shared. Power line transmission, and distribution. Ho much do transformers cost? Ever audit the process of converting bauxite to finished aluminum? It's pure electricity.
What is hopefully dramatically altered is the production of carbon dioxide and residual remains of petroleum combustion.
Do a workup on the amount of emissions produced in NIGHT TIME power generation. Hydroelectric, and nuclear are the main contenders for massive power generation. Geothermal is cost intensive (ruining heat exchanger components). Got a lot of falling water nearby? Want hourglass shaped structures on your horizon?
NOTHING IS FREE except if you would find a lottery ticket.
Historically when O2 levels climbed because of drought, massive die-offs in tropical rain forests occurred triggered by low levels of sun activity (happening now) and regional drought, the die-off releases more CO2 than man has produced since the beginning of time. This is historic rhythmic climatic cycling -- it's been happening for millions of years.
Compared to a rain forest die-off, electric car usage is not even a drop in the bucket. What is important is to acknowledge if artificial CO2 production will alter climate enough to trigger drought and a mass tropical die off.
The term GLOBAL WARMING IMHO is farcical. It belittles the importance of preventing an artificial tropical drought across O latitude land masses.
A thorough understanding, meaning a NON POLITICAL SELF SUPPORTING audit must be conducted to actually compare the difference in CO2 manufacturing between electricity and "electric" anything must be conducted. Isn't going to happen in a politically charged arena.
While people chant slogans and argue, our oceans are being sterilized by overfishing. Clear-cutting of marine life.
I can only sit back and wonder.
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