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path1
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Sep 19, 2015

Messed up and need some wisdom about Torquing

I messed up, like nobody has ever done before, right? Looking for little bit of wisdom.

It was time to adjust my transmission bands. I drained the fluid and removed pan. I went to go get my inch pound torque wrench, and can’t find it. Last time I used it was in Yuma. I think it's in the shed there, and doesn’t help me because I’m at my home base in WA state. I messed up even more by parking behind my other car. So I can’t just hop in car and get another wrench. Neighbor on one side is gone for weekend. Neighbor on other side…Well good fences make good neighbors.

Here is plan “B”. Please don’t laugh. I think this will work as I’m creating measured force (torque). But don't want to mess up trans or re-do project again.

I need 72 inch lbs. So I'll fill up empty gallon milk jug till I get 6 pounds on a pretty good scale that I have. Put box end of wrench on the bolt I need torqued at right angles and connect other end of wrench to milk jug (with string or something). I would then be at right angles, and gently let the weight of 6 pounds put pressure on bolt.

I realize this is mickey mouse but I would prefer not putting pan back on and trans fluid back in, if possible just to go get another torque wrench.

Do you think this is going to end well?
  • Old-Biscuit wrote:
    path1 wrote:
    Problem solved I hope.

    Called auto part store where I got trans fluid. Refreshed their memory, I’m the guy that bought all that trans fluid right after you opened up this morning. Do you deliver? “NO not today”. But as it turns out the guy will be sort of going my way when he gets of work and will drop new torque off at my house.

    Think I'll still try with milk jug weight to see if thinking was right or wrong and then confirm when wrench shows up.

    My mickey mouse idea is as bad as when I had plumbing leak at a fitting and no Teflon tape with me. I wrapped dental floss around the threads and it worked!

    Thanks for come back.


    Use the torque wrench.

    Dental floss worked but if it didn't it would have just been a minor leak.'

    Torque is 'pounds-foot or inch-foot'

    Energy is 'foot-pounds'

    The 6 pound jug doesn't work.....burnt transmission band/clutch.

    BIG DIFFERENCE.


    Repair book says: "tighten band adjusting screw to 8 N-m (72 in. lbs.)..........then "tighten locknut to 41 N-m (30 ft. lbs.) torque"

    I've got my regular FOOT pound torque, just don't have INCH.

    But should shortly when guy drops it off.
  • 6 lb jug on the end of a wrench that is 12 inches long is what you need.
  • path1 wrote:
    Problem solved I hope.

    Called auto part store where I got trans fluid. Refreshed their memory, I’m the guy that bought all that trans fluid right after you opened up this morning. Do you deliver? “NO not today”. But as it turns out the guy will be sort of going my way when he gets of work and will drop new torque off at my house.

    Think I'll still try with milk jug weight to see if thinking was right or wrong and then confirm when wrench shows up.

    My mickey mouse idea is as bad as when I had plumbing leak at a fitting and no Teflon tape with me. I wrapped dental floss around the threads and it worked!

    Thanks for come back.


    Use the torque wrench.

    Dental floss worked but if it didn't it would have just been a minor leak.'

    Torque is 'pounds-foot or inch-foot'

    Energy is 'foot-pounds'

    The 6 pound jug doesn't work.....burnt transmission band/clutch.

    BIG DIFFERENCE.
  • What vehicle are you working on that allows an easy adjustment of bands? Have you done this procedure previously?

    FWIW, my vehicle service manual says to not even change the fluid screen/filter because of the difficulty in getting it mounted correctly.

    Also, FWIW, 6 ft lbs. is just past hand tight (using my hands).
  • Bird Freak wrote:
    Not really as length of wrench will determine torque value as well.

    I'm guessing he will use a wrench/ratchet similar in length to his torque wrench. That should put him in the ballpark.
  • Bird Freak wrote:
    Not really as length of wrench will determine torque value as well.


    Dang, you're right, didn't think of that.
  • Problem solved I hope.

    Called auto part store where I got trans fluid. Refreshed their memory, I’m the guy that bought all that trans fluid right after you opened up this morning. Do you deliver? “NO not today”. But as it turns out the guy will be sort of going my way when he gets of work and will drop new torque off at my house.

    Think I'll still try with milk jug weight to see if thinking was right or wrong and then confirm when wrench shows up.

    My mickey mouse idea is as bad as when I had plumbing leak at a fitting and no Teflon tape with me. I wrapped dental floss around the threads and it worked!

    Thanks for come back.
  • Not really as length of wrench will determine torque value as well.
  • Yep, lesson learned..check to make sure ALL tools are on hand before starting work.

    Will you be able to pull straight down on all the bolts that need torqued?
    Think I'll be pretty close. I'll double check that.
  • In theory it sounds like it will work. Will you be able to pull straight down on all the bolts that need torqued?
    It's better than trying to guess when you have reached the correct torque.

    I bet you will make sure you have all the proper tools before you start your next project. :)

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