Not A Joke Top Off With Gasoline or Diesel
Saudi Arabia just cut production to 50%. Rocket attacks against refineries and pipelines. You can bet your last dollar prices are going to double because of speculators. Crude has jumped on a weekend ...
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Autumn is the traditional time for SF Bay area refineries to do yearly MAINTENANCE TURNAROUND.
Secondly, may I inquire about the source of LA regional REFINERY UPSETS?
Thirdly since the use of MTBE was overridden by alcohol and No2 diesel does not exist anymore since ULSD replaced all grades except marine, in California, there is no seasonal changeover. Alcohol levels remain at 10%
Refinery TURNAROUNDS are scheduled STAGGERED. 1st SHELL then Tidewater, Exxon, then Chevron in the SF Bay Area. They all do not suddenly ramp down and turn off the lights. Southern Pacific operates a vast network of huge pipes alongside every major railroad route. Yes, the railroad no longer exists but the pipeline is a profitable company. They pump 24/7/365. Behind every slug of a product comes a device called a PIG which eliminates product bleeding. SP pumps for many other companies besides refineries. PIGS are push-pull stored at the location.
Refineries operate at 50-60% capacity typically.
So I am expected to believe that a 50 cent per gallon hike is due to refinery upsets and turnarounds? Check your facts. Autumn is the traditional time to resume non-prime-time price humps. This has been historical for 50-years. Since I spent several years at Shell with friends at Exxon and at Chevron in Richmond. Tidewater is now Valero east of the Shell Oil refinery.
And yes, public panic and speculation influence retail prices more than anything else. But my suggestion to fill up now and then wait the six months until spring hurts nothing. Worst case is a full tank that stops condensation or is that an issue as well? Need condensation?
Dragging the USA into war needlessly is so easy to do and so stupid. If you believe the Houthi's manufactured rockets out of sand and Camel dung that's your problem, not mine. The Saudi royalty is paranoid over the possibility of losing their country. They are as stupid as a pile of bricks but someone else you have no control over our government will respond and that is not a guess. The Houthi are puppets of IRAN and could care less if they start a war as long as it's soon.
The only way to firm an opinion up is to let it play out over sufficient time. I say by spring. Some of our less cranial members say "By yesterday" And I do indeed have the scholastic credentials to be a CFO but I saved my life by eliminating daily fights with people who choose to argue rather than think.
TIME WILL TELL. LET IT PLAY OUT.
Secondly, may I inquire about the source of LA regional REFINERY UPSETS?
Thirdly since the use of MTBE was overridden by alcohol and No2 diesel does not exist anymore since ULSD replaced all grades except marine, in California, there is no seasonal changeover. Alcohol levels remain at 10%
Refinery TURNAROUNDS are scheduled STAGGERED. 1st SHELL then Tidewater, Exxon, then Chevron in the SF Bay Area. They all do not suddenly ramp down and turn off the lights. Southern Pacific operates a vast network of huge pipes alongside every major railroad route. Yes, the railroad no longer exists but the pipeline is a profitable company. They pump 24/7/365. Behind every slug of a product comes a device called a PIG which eliminates product bleeding. SP pumps for many other companies besides refineries. PIGS are push-pull stored at the location.
Refineries operate at 50-60% capacity typically.
So I am expected to believe that a 50 cent per gallon hike is due to refinery upsets and turnarounds? Check your facts. Autumn is the traditional time to resume non-prime-time price humps. This has been historical for 50-years. Since I spent several years at Shell with friends at Exxon and at Chevron in Richmond. Tidewater is now Valero east of the Shell Oil refinery.
And yes, public panic and speculation influence retail prices more than anything else. But my suggestion to fill up now and then wait the six months until spring hurts nothing. Worst case is a full tank that stops condensation or is that an issue as well? Need condensation?
Dragging the USA into war needlessly is so easy to do and so stupid. If you believe the Houthi's manufactured rockets out of sand and Camel dung that's your problem, not mine. The Saudi royalty is paranoid over the possibility of losing their country. They are as stupid as a pile of bricks but someone else you have no control over our government will respond and that is not a guess. The Houthi are puppets of IRAN and could care less if they start a war as long as it's soon.
The only way to firm an opinion up is to let it play out over sufficient time. I say by spring. Some of our less cranial members say "By yesterday" And I do indeed have the scholastic credentials to be a CFO but I saved my life by eliminating daily fights with people who choose to argue rather than think.
TIME WILL TELL. LET IT PLAY OUT.
