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Of course not but tel ju IT to the state

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Money saved does not disappear -- unless the holder disappears it. It helps to maintain a level head when dissecting finances. Such as state tax. A dollar per gallon increase in CA. adds a minimum of 8% additional tax.

Don't mean to spoil an electric car enthusiasts day, but too many folks on this board ridiculed my caution regarding supplemental taxation on electric cars for me to, as they say. "Shine It On"


"Taxing your electric car to pay for highway repairs is gaining momentum
As more and more electric cars hit the roads, Congress is eyeing ways to have vehicle owners pay for using the nation’s highways and bridges." https://www.sacbee.com/#storylink=cpy

The honeymoon is over

No, I didn't gloat when I read this. I shook my head. The infrastructure tax is what is going to wallop everyone. Tens of millions of tons of steel and aluminum. How much extra CO2 needs to be amortized?

Federal excise taxes and most state taxes are a dollar amount per gallon. The price of a gallon doesn't effect the tax amount at all. Federal taxes per mile driven have been shrinking for decades due to increased fuel economy of the entire US fleet of vehicles. That fact, combined with electric vehicles is the impetus for starting a discussion on changing how road taxes are collected. That being said, cost of fuel is way down on the things I worry about for two reasons. One, it isn't a significant part of my spending. And two, there isn't anything I can do about it.

"This isn't a one-week affair."
followed by 3 days later by...

Think you need to get back on your "meds"..Gas price raised a mere $.20 today

Reading comprehension is a large part of having an additive collation of information to SUMMARIZE from.

I cannot predict WHEN the oil prices are going to rise. Nor how much per day or month. But realize this...shale oil can NOT compete with pumped crude to be competitive. Right now profits are razor-thin. But it's cheaper to limp along, than stop and then restart.

Guilty or not, playing the Iranians as the boogeyman is profitable long or short term. They will end up enhancing sales of stunningly expensive military hardware by billions of dollars -- perhaps tens of billions. What better way to bandage a tariff bruised US economy? The LUST for Venezuelan Lagomar crude becomes sharper. Do you need a compass and a guide dog?

State revenues are enhanced not by cents but by tens of millions of cents every day.

My second Master's degree thesis was based on petrodollars in the Latin American economy and it was four thousand pages long covering Mexico to Brazil. It could have been re-titled "Going bankrupt by basing high point loan security on pre corruption estimates of production".

There is zero resistance to arguments of enhancing alternate energy gains. Higher MPG standards for motor vehicles. Think and think hard about what entity besides a hapless consumer would be against substantially higher petroleum prices?

Please do not apply for the position of Petro analyst. This area is even more obtuse than a battery design engineer.

The world energy markets are much different than in pre-fracking days. We were the biggest consumer now we are also the biggest producer. If the Arabs don’t get back in production quickly they risk losing market share. Whatever price impact there is will be dampened somewhat by the commodity traders (aka: speculators) until things settle down.

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
I store 200 gallons for the generator and then fill a pair of 130-gallon tanks aboard quicksilver.
Saudi Arabia is demanding 85 dollars for its crude oil. Think conspiracy? Nawwwwwww, they wouldn't do thaaaaaaaaaaat.

This isn't a one-week affair. Jeezo where did some of you folks get your education in economics........out of a cereal box? This is a months-long ordeal and it isn't what YOU pay at the pump, it's what haulers of groceries, 150,000-ton freighters, and parcel delivery services pay. And it all compounds just like interest. I'm thinking more like ONE DOLLAR PER GALLON of gasoline and diesel hike. My family has 600 pounds of lobster and near a half-ton of three dollars a pound, red sea bass called huachinango under refrigeration. So filling the reserves has to be an affordable process, but diesel here = four dollars a gallon.

I peruse a lot of data weekly. When I come across something I cannot use I skim right across it. I do not waste time with it. That's nothing less than stupid. Use the info or waste time.

Mex,

Think you need to get back on your "meds"..

Gas price raised a mere $.20 today for a total of $2.86 with PA taxes of nearly $.80 per gallon included in the price, that IS much less of a jump than the last refinery fire here in the US..

I think you are forgetting about the price of gas back quite a few years ago when 87 got up to almost $5.00 a gallon.

The last news I saw earlier today was the Saudis felt they could have the plant up to 1/3 operating capacity within three days and maybe two weeks to full capacity. Hardly a earth shattering catastrophe when considering that they are only supplying a mere 5% of the entire worlds crude output.

US IS exporting far more crude and petroleum products than what we take in which in the overall picture 5% loss is nothing more than a small speed bump..

Money saved does not disappear -- unless the holder disappears it. It helps to maintain a level head when dissecting finances. Such as state tax. A dollar per gallon increase in CA. adds a minimum of 8% additional tax.

Don't mean to spoil an electric car enthusiasts day, but too many folks on this board ridiculed my caution regarding supplemental taxation on electric cars for me to, as they say. "Shine It On"


"Taxing your electric car to pay for highway repairs is gaining momentum
As more and more electric cars hit the roads, Congress is eyeing ways to have vehicle owners pay for using the nation’s highways and bridges." https://www.sacbee.com/#storylink=cpy

The honeymoon is over

No, I didn't gloat when I read this. I shook my head. The infrastructure tax is what is going to wallop everyone. Tens of millions of tons of steel and aluminum. How much extra CO2 needs to be amortized?

Filled up my truck today........got a $1 off discount per gallon due to my fuel points so I'm ahead of the game

For now!

I store 200 gallons for the generator and then fill a pair of 130-gallon tanks aboard quicksilver.
Saudi Arabia is demanding 85 dollars for its crude oil. Think conspiracy? Nawwwwwww, they wouldn't do thaaaaaaaaaaat.

This isn't a one-week affair. Jeezo where did some of you folks get your education in economics........out of a cereal box? This is a months-long ordeal and it isn't what YOU pay at the pump, it's what haulers of groceries, 150,000-ton freighters, and parcel delivery services pay. And it all compounds just like interest. I'm thinking more like ONE DOLLAR PER GALLON of gasoline and diesel hike. My family has 600 pounds of lobster and near a half-ton of three dollars a pound, red sea bass called huachinango under refrigeration. So filling the reserves has to be an affordable process, but diesel here = four dollars a gallon.

I peruse a lot of data weekly. When I come across something I cannot use I skim right across it. I do not waste time with it. That's nothing less than stupid. Use the info or waste time.

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Might as well End It All, right?

Me, I'll save a few hundred dollars and smile. I'll save useless comments for other points that improve my life. The middle east isn't on my RADAR but not wasting money, is.

Talk about missing the point. This is a classic. "I got more where that came from"

I have to agree. If I had an empty 1000 gallon fuel tank, I also would be looking to fill it now. That is how much fuel you would need to buy to save a few hundred dollars if even the worst predictions of fuel price increases in the range of $.25 per gallon come true. This especially a good idea if it is diesel being hoarded, since fuel oil almost always increases in price in the winter due to demand for heating oil and the increased cost of anti gelling chemicals in winter blend. On the other hand, topping off the fuel tank in my Ferrari's and Bentley's might save me two bucks a car, not worth risking the need for a new wax job.

We export gasoline now. We are not going to be affected that much by Saudia Arabia. That is the country that was involved in perpetrating 9/11. We need to stop fighting over oil. Our biggest imports of crude now come from Canada, Mexico and Venezuela, not the ME.

Good reason to head toward more electric vehicles. The mining of lithium will be important going forward for storage batteries. Warren has talked about a moratorium on new mining. How are we supposed to ramp up electric vehicles and green energy without lithium?