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- tvfrfiremanExplorer
larry barnhart wrote:
No problems ever with the Alpenlite gauges. We will soon get all the problems fixed on the new one. Pretty disappointed but will end up a solid fifth wheel.tvfrfireman wrote:
TheFitRV James wrote:
I installed the See Level tank monitors as part of our remodel.
Love 'em. Never regretted the decision. If you're planning on keeping your rig for a while, it's probably worth it.
I DO have one issue with them. When it's super wet outside - rainy, snowy, what have you - I can get erroneous readings on the grey and black tanks. They hang under our class B and are exposed to the elements. Once they dry out, they go back to working just fine.
Thanks for responding. I am ordering them on line today. This is what I wanted to hear. I thought there might be another brand but it sounds like these are the ones to get as I heard the same thing on another forum.
tvfireman did you have any problems with the style you had on the alpenlite. We have not had a problem. I agree when we buy something we like it to work. Sorry for bummer new rv.
chevman - larry_barnhartExplorer
tvfrfireman wrote:
TheFitRV James wrote:
I installed the See Level tank monitors as part of our remodel.
Love 'em. Never regretted the decision. If you're planning on keeping your rig for a while, it's probably worth it.
I DO have one issue with them. When it's super wet outside - rainy, snowy, what have you - I can get erroneous readings on the grey and black tanks. They hang under our class B and are exposed to the elements. Once they dry out, they go back to working just fine.
Thanks for responding. I am ordering them on line today. This is what I wanted to hear. I thought there might be another brand but it sounds like these are the ones to get as I heard the same thing on another forum.
tvfireman did you have any problems with the style you had on the alpenlite. We have not had a problem. I agree when we buy something we like it to work. Sorry for bummer new rv.
chevman - SprigExplorer
wa8yxm wrote:
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I plan on getting Horst Marcile probes in a month or 2 and trying those on 2 or 3 tanks...
How did you locate the wiring, or even studs, to the black and grey tanks on your rig?
I can not find a way to even get to the wiring on my grey and black tanks let alone trying to replace the studs.
Thanks! - Dutch_12078Explorer II
tvfrfireman wrote:
TheFitRV James wrote:
I installed the See Level tank monitors as part of our remodel.
Love 'em. Never regretted the decision. If you're planning on keeping your rig for a while, it's probably worth it.
I DO have one issue with them. When it's super wet outside - rainy, snowy, what have you - I can get erroneous readings on the grey and black tanks. They hang under our class B and are exposed to the elements. Once they dry out, they go back to working just fine.
Thanks for responding. I am ordering them on line today. This is what I wanted to hear. I thought there might be another brand but it sounds like these are the ones to get as I heard the same thing on another forum.
I installed the SeeLevel II tank monitor system on our coach to replace the non-working original KIB "stud through tank wall" setup. The installation was relatively easy reusing some of the original wiring. I installed the model 709PH display that has the pump and water heater switches included. Since apparently my wife and I, as well as our occasional guests, are not as easily predictable in our bathroom habits as some of the earlier posters, we've found the SeeLevel system's accuracy and the peace of mind it gives us to be well worth the modest cost. I think you'll be please with the end result. - nbounderExplorertvfrfireman - funny you should ask that question about folks who respond to posts when they do not have an answer. I guess there are a bunch of folks who like to hear themselves type. I have found that lots of posters don't want to either read the manual nor call tech support to get an answer. They post a question then wait for someone to respond with a simplistic answer. Then, there are responders who don't ever read the post from start to end and jump in with an answer which is 180 degrees off base . Thus, this forum has significant entertainment value to the rest of us.
- tvfrfiremanExplorer
TheFitRV James wrote:
I installed the See Level tank monitors as part of our remodel.
Love 'em. Never regretted the decision. If you're planning on keeping your rig for a while, it's probably worth it.
I DO have one issue with them. When it's super wet outside - rainy, snowy, what have you - I can get erroneous readings on the grey and black tanks. They hang under our class B and are exposed to the elements. Once they dry out, they go back to working just fine.
Thanks for responding. I am ordering them on line today. This is what I wanted to hear. I thought there might be another brand but it sounds like these are the ones to get as I heard the same thing on another forum. - tvfrfiremanExplorer
paulcardoza wrote:
It's not that you don't or shouldn't need working level indicators. It is, however, a LOT easier to do without waste tank level indicators than it is a fuel gauge! :E
My opinion is that the amount of time and effort required to keep the level indicators working properly is both a waste of my time and my money.
We use plenty of water when flushing.
We use the cheap campa-chem tank deodorizer from Wally world after each dump.
We don't put junk down the sink drains.
I use the tank flush, every 3rd or 4th dump.
I cannot remember the last time I even checked my level gauges and we live in the coach for 7 months of the year.
When the toilet "burps", it's nearly full and time to dump. Ususally, once per week. When the grandkids stop in for a few days, it's every 4-5 days.
I refuse to agonize over such a simple system. Life is way too short to be fussing with tank level indicators and cleaning out tanks........ I am not agonizing, just asking a simple question about after market gauges. We dry camp for extended periods. We need to know how many gallons of water are left so we can budget. If you don't have an answer to my question than why do you respond? The gauges we have register one third, two thirds, and full on all tanks. So the freshwater tank (100)reads full and stays full for a week and then immediately falls to one third. A day later it is empty. When you are thirty miles from a water source this matters. And no, I can't get a visual on the water level as the tank is buried in the belly.tvfrfireman wrote:
rockhillmanor wrote:
I do maintain my tanks. I have been rving for over thirty years. Never had a problem with any of the gauges in the other five trailers. These gauges in this new rv didn't work from the get go. My question was about aftermarket holding tank gauges. One fellow said he doesn't need them and infers that I shouldn't need them. If your fuel gauge in your vehicles don't work you get them fixed. How is this any different? Why do people respond to a post if they can't answer the question?
These gauges DO work. It's a matter of how well you clean and maintain your tanks. People seem to think they don't have to put any effort into a black and gray tank other than pulling a lever to dump it!
Use plenty of water in the black tank when flushing. Not enough water and everything WILL stick to the sensors. After EVERY dump fill black tank with water and dump again. Then open gray and dump.
Gray tanks - this is not your home kitchen sink that goes out to a sewer, it's a holding tank. Do NOT put food solids or grease down an RV sink. After 3 or 4 dumps pour a lemon cleaner down the sink fill with water and dump again. Or add the lemon cleaner before each dump. I've watched my friends pour bacon grease right down the drain and then wonder why their gauges don't work. :S
IMHO, JMHO before you think a 'different' brand of gauges will solve the problem, fill both your tanks with water several times and dump. Buy a bottle of Thetford Sensor Cleaner and throw that in both tanks let it sit and dump. Now fill you tanks up with water and be amazed how all the pretty colors of your gauges light up! Then 'maintain' your tanks. :C - tvfrfiremanExplorer
rockhillmanor wrote:
I have had it in for tons of warranty work. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. Our five month trip with this RV was a stressful one with almost twenty items from front hydraulics jacks dragging on the pavement at 60 mph to TV's needing total replacement, slide problems, etc.... Dealers damaging our trailer every time we took it in. I asked about sea level gauges for a reason. I am done with these repair people who just cause more damage than they fix. Lately, I have had other threads (one about our antenna that I left up and got torn off) due to being focused on the front jacks that kept coming down while trying to make it to an warranty appointment on time. Out of all the responses I got back one answer on the problem at hand, only one person tackled the question. All the other gave me tips on being how to be more aware and not do such a foolish thing. If you had an answer about sea level gauges, I would have loved to have heard it. It gets discouraging when you have spent thousands of dollars on a new trailer and have had the nightmare we have had. I just asked a simple question and wanted some help.tvfrfireman wrote:
rockhillmanor wrote:
I do maintain my tanks. I have been rving for over thirty years. Never had a problem with any of the gauges in the other five trailers. These gauges in this new rv didn't work from the get go. My question was about aftermarket holding tank gauges. One fellow said he doesn't need them and infers that I shouldn't need them. If your fuel gauge in your vehicles don't work you get them fixed. How is this any different? Why do people respond to a post if they can't answer the question?
These gauges DO work. It's a matter of how well you clean and maintain your tanks. People seem to think they don't have to put any effort into a black and gray tank other than pulling a lever to dump it!
Use plenty of water in the black tank when flushing. Not enough water and everything WILL stick to the sensors. After EVERY dump fill black tank with water and dump again. Then open gray and dump.
Gray tanks - this is not your home kitchen sink that goes out to a sewer, it's a holding tank. Do NOT put food solids or grease down an RV sink. After 3 or 4 dumps pour a lemon cleaner down the sink fill with water and dump again. Or add the lemon cleaner before each dump. I've watched my friends pour bacon grease right down the drain and then wonder why their gauges don't work. :S
IMHO, JMHO before you think a 'different' brand of gauges will solve the problem, fill both your tanks with water several times and dump. Buy a bottle of Thetford Sensor Cleaner and throw that in both tanks let it sit and dump. Now fill you tanks up with water and be amazed how all the pretty colors of your gauges light up! Then 'maintain' your tanks. :C
Sorry, not a mind reader to know that your 'new' RV is not your first.
It was a suggestion/advice as to how one can get them to work to help avoid additional after market purchases.
If they didn't work when you purchased your new RV, then the repair should have been covered under your warranty. - ktmrfsExplorer II
wa8yxm wrote:
You have basically 3 choices.
So far I'm living with the junk the factory put in (Someone up-thread properly described it as a "Stud" I usually say nail, same thing)
I plan on getting Horst Marcile probes in a month or 2 and trying those on 2 or 3 tanks.
SEE Level.. Those are beyond a doubt the best.
x2 on the Horst Miracle probes. Not as foolproof as the sea level, but way way way better than the factory probes and are a drop in replacement. But I've found that with reasonable attention to dumping and flushing the tanks, they are plenty reliable. - paulcardozaExplorerIt's not that you don't or shouldn't need working level indicators. It is, however, a LOT easier to do without waste tank level indicators than it is a fuel gauge! :E
My opinion is that the amount of time and effort required to keep the level indicators working properly is both a waste of my time and my money.
We use plenty of water when flushing.
We use the cheap campa-chem tank deodorizer from Wally world after each dump.
We don't put junk down the sink drains.
I use the tank flush, every 3rd or 4th dump.
I cannot remember the last time I even checked my level gauges and we live in the coach for 7 months of the year.
When the toilet "burps", it's nearly full and time to dump. Ususally, once per week. When the grandkids stop in for a few days, it's every 4-5 days.
I refuse to agonize over such a simple system. Life is way too short to be fussing with tank level indicators and cleaning out tanks........tvfrfireman wrote:
rockhillmanor wrote:
I do maintain my tanks. I have been rving for over thirty years. Never had a problem with any of the gauges in the other five trailers. These gauges in this new rv didn't work from the get go. My question was about aftermarket holding tank gauges. One fellow said he doesn't need them and infers that I shouldn't need them. If your fuel gauge in your vehicles don't work you get them fixed. How is this any different? Why do people respond to a post if they can't answer the question?
These gauges DO work. It's a matter of how well you clean and maintain your tanks. People seem to think they don't have to put any effort into a black and gray tank other than pulling a lever to dump it!
Use plenty of water in the black tank when flushing. Not enough water and everything WILL stick to the sensors. After EVERY dump fill black tank with water and dump again. Then open gray and dump.
Gray tanks - this is not your home kitchen sink that goes out to a sewer, it's a holding tank. Do NOT put food solids or grease down an RV sink. After 3 or 4 dumps pour a lemon cleaner down the sink fill with water and dump again. Or add the lemon cleaner before each dump. I've watched my friends pour bacon grease right down the drain and then wonder why their gauges don't work. :S
IMHO, JMHO before you think a 'different' brand of gauges will solve the problem, fill both your tanks with water several times and dump. Buy a bottle of Thetford Sensor Cleaner and throw that in both tanks let it sit and dump. Now fill you tanks up with water and be amazed how all the pretty colors of your gauges light up! Then 'maintain' your tanks. :C
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