Painful Night Rather Than Waste It = Rough Number Crunching

pnichols wrote:

JaxDad wrote:
I think you might have missed one big variable, maybe two.

I’m willing to bet the numbers are more than just a little skewed depending on whether you’re talking about the millions of good folks in the SW or New England.

Here in Toronto it’s dark by 5pm and there’s not really any solar energy much before 9am for months over the winter. Oh, and it’s not unusual to have days at a time where it’s not above ~15 F. daytime and -5 F. overnight. Guess what that does to battery performance?

Oh, and we like some (electric) heat on during the 1 - 1.5 hr commute.


Houston, we have a problem.........

Well stated!

I've always been taught in my college courses that electric heating takes a LOT of electricity. That's why electric baseboard heating in modern U.S. homes in cold areas is avoided like the plague if at all possible.

I have no idea how any affordable and currently available electric car on a single charge can handle a 200+ mile range ... plus do some of that 200+ miles with lights on during mornings and evenings and with the heater and defroster running full blast in 10-20 degree - or lower - weather. :h

FWIW, our daily driver sedan can do that for 400-450 miles without having to mess with refueling.

P.S. Maybe electric cars are using heat pumps for their cooling/heating? If so, I trust that they also have on board energy-hog pure electric heating for outside temperatures way down there where heat pumps no longer can heat.