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lainiest
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Mar 31, 2018

permanent campsite electrical

I want my own pedestal. Can I daisy chain off from the pedestal nearest my campsite?
Can I plug into the 50 amp space and run it to my own pedestal with a 30amp and 20 amp outlets?
I would be using a NEMA Box/Pedestal and running the wire in PVC pipe underground.
I have a 30 amp TT and would like additional 20 amps for outside use.
  • ScottG

    If it is an existing campground the number of pedestals per loop is specified in NEC. I do not remember the actual numbers. Adding an additional pedestal would not be legal if the loop is already maxed out.

    If I remember correctly it is 13 30 amp on a loop--but I really don't remember the number for 50 amp.
  • theoldwizard1 wrote:
    The only way you could achieve this is by replacing the first pedestal with a true outdoor rated sub panel. This panel would have a pair of breakers for the first pedestals outlets and then a pair of breakers feeding/protecting the wiring to the second pedal.

    If both set of outlets were pulling large amount of amps, they could easily overload the upstream wiring, but that would be protected by the upstream breaker. You could also wire in a third pair of breaker at that fir location to act as a "main" for the 2 sets of outlets so in case of a trip, hopefully you won't have to walk all the way back to the main breaker panel (where ever that is) and reset that breaker.

    This might sound complicated but it really is not. Just remember a breaker protects the downstream wiring. The only place "daisy chaining" is allowed is on 120V 15a or 20A circuits.


    I know of nothing in the NEC that says you cannot have two 50A receptacles on one 50A circuit and have seen commercial establishments wired that way. Very common when they have multiple large machines but only 1 is used at a time. And of course the 30 and 20A outlets come off that first 50A outlet as well in an RV panel.
    If you know of such a code, please edumacate me! :@
  • The only way you could achieve this is by replacing the first pedestal with a true outdoor rated sub panel. This panel would have a pair of breakers for the first pedestals outlets and then a pair of breakers feeding/protecting the wiring to the second pedal.

    If both set of outlets were pulling large amount of amps, they could easily overload the upstream wiring, but that would be protected by the upstream breaker. You could also wire in a third pair of breaker at that fir location to act as a "main" for the 2 sets of outlets so in case of a trip, hopefully you won't have to walk all the way back to the main breaker panel (where ever that is) and reset that breaker.

    This might sound complicated but it really is not. Just remember a breaker protects the downstream wiring. The only place "daisy chaining" is allowed is on 120V 15a or 20A circuits.
  • No, sorry but you cant plug into it and extend to another panel in that manner.
    What you could do is do away with the first RV panel and extend the feed for it to your new one. You would still need a junction box there at the original location.
    Another less desirable but legal thing you could do is open up the first box and using appropriate connections, extend the feed to the next panel. Obviously you could not use both locations to their fullest capacity at the same time but it could be done legally.

    Or you cold just use a long extension cord. I bought a 50' 30A extension cord for home use.
  • What you're describing, if I'm understanding it, is not kosher per the NEC. An extension cord (which is what you're really talking about, assuming it's just plugging into the 50A receptacle on the other pedestal) is for temporary use, and so not put in conduit, buried underground, etc.

    Current NEC code requires a 20A outlet (maybe a 15A outlet, actually) at every site with electric service, besides any 30A or 50A receptacle. That's little help for an existing installation where you don't have one.
  • The short answer is No.

    Investigate how many pedestals are already on that "loop". You might get lucky (but you had better be a lottery winner).
  • “Can I daisy chain off from the pedestal nearest my campsite?”

    I would suggest a pro review your plan and if ok wire this, not you.
  • NO.

    Not unless you can somehow guarantee that the pedestal you are bridging onto will never be used.

    Why are you not permanently parking at one of the existing spaces ??

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