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NinerBikes
Feb 03, 2016Explorer
RJsfishin wrote:
Yes, ignore my posts, while at the same time remembering the fact that everything I say is true,....except the few post that really were made made to agitate a little.
It has always been said "you can't fix stupid", and the last few posts prove that to be fact for sure.
I am glad that there are a couple here that really do know what they are talking about,....(not including mex, niner, and yaht) I respect them, and I do still learn from them.
It seems that there is a growing number of battery fryers, that they could form a "Battery Fryers Club" of their own. That seems to be their whole life anyway, mite as well form a club and get some real recognition. But on 2nd thought, where would I then come every morning for my comedy of the day.:(
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Where you make your mistake is in believing the battery charger manufacturers specifications. They don't warranty batteries.
Ask the battery companies what their batteries need to fully charge, and you'll get the real specifications. 14.8V for most Trojans, US batteries need 15.3 Volts to fully charge. Take your pick as to who you want to call a liar. The ones who warranty charge controllers, or the ones who warranty your battery. Maybe it's beneficial for both of them to screw you and keep you in the dark on the truth?
No one here in this thread has commented ever about "roasting their battery".
What they have commented on is getting 500 or more deep cycle recharges out of their battery using proper recharging methods, techniques, etc, and the one method that comes up consistently is that they all recharge and set the voltage manually to get all those recharge cycles. They all do thorough equalization charges when necessary. What they don't use are charge controllers that offer nothing but promises or multiple stages of charging that are "set it and forget it". This is because in day in and day out dry camping use, the set it and forget it crowd ends up losing battery capacity in short order, within a week or two, of using the fancy 3 or 4 stage chargers, most of which are or were designed to be pedestal queens, tethered to a pedestal, day in and day out, not to a generator for an hour or two a day in the morning and evening.
Two things I know for sure... my WFCO 8955 smart charge controller is dumb, and my Walmart Deep cycle battery was useless to me in less than a year, using the WFCO.
Another two things I know for sure is the well used Trojan T-1275 that was left for dead at the golf course, I got another 2 years of life out of it for free. How? I top charged it at 14.8v. Then I had to equalize charge it to 16.0V, three times, before the Specific gravity was where it was supposed to be on all 6 cells.
I bought and sold a PD 9245 with wizard pendant, it didn't do the job, 14.4V was not enough.
I bought a MegaWatt 30 amp PSU and a RC watt meter and started charging at 14.8V. Lo and behold, that worked for me to bulk charge.
I bought a 150w poly solar panel and an adjustable voltage charge controller. Not only did it top charge, but I could equalize charge with it also, set at 16.0V for an hour or two in the early afternoon, if needed.
Two more years out of a free golf cart industrial grade battery, left for dead, properly recharged at the correct voltage.
So yes, some batteries can be resurrected from the grave for a bit... the the true deep cycle brands that have been mistreated by 3 or 4 stage charge controllers for a bit of their life, before finally being treated and recharged right and correctly. Not the Walmart stuff or car jar shaped and "GROUP 24,27, 29, 31" labeled garden variety batteries sold at most retail outlets.
I get my industrial grade and strength batteries at specialty shops nowadays. With good reason. Far better longevity and value per dollar spent, per year of life. My TT never sees a power pedestal.
YMMV, I no longer waste my time or money trying to make silk purses out of sows ears.
As for your wire gauge recommendations... someone is going to burn something down following your recommendations, sooner or later. There's cutting corners, and then there's gross negligence. Your wire recommendations fall under the second category for people that have no business wiring anything, without understanding the theory and load calculations behind what they are doing.
I'd hate to be in a car, an airplane or a space ship wired by you.
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