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JBarca
Apr 23, 2012Nomad II
Hi Folks,
Thanks for the comments, greatly appreciated as I sort through this.
I had to work today so I did not have as much time to create responses to all the good questions/comments. But I did check all 4 tires today to see if this bulging is starting on the other 3 tires.
Some big picture things. The tire make up Capri-Racer asked.

And the spare tire. This tire only had about 50 miles on it. I used it ounce when I had a right side tire valve leak. It has sat in my front cargo hole the rest of the time. I am using a dry wall square and the long blade is on the outside of the tire. This will show on every tire the same way so you know the outside. I'm using this as my control for tire roundness. This is at 65 psi

Here is some of the info to add and clarify as there may have been some misunderstanding on the good tire and the bulge tire. All tires have some kind of tread splits and fine side wall cracks.
Left rear tire: The problem bulged tire that started all this. I looked it all over today. There are some tread splits and side wall cracks. This tire has towed it's last for me. It will not leave the yard on the camper.
Here is the bulge

And 180 degrees from the bulge

Side wall cracks.

Tread splits
A problem are with 3 splits in one area.

close up - This is about 6" from the start of the bulge


more close up

The other close up

Now to the other 3 tires.
Left Front Tire:

Thread splits. There are 5 areas
Area 1

Area 2


Area 3

Area 4

Area 5

Now to the other side of the camper. Door side.
Right Rear Tire:

Tread Splits. There are 3 areas.
Area 1

Area 2

Area 3

Right Front Tire:

Tread Splits: There are 3 areas and a strange depression
Area 1 This must be a stone cut.

Area 2

Area 3

And now this strange depression right in the center. It is like 3 grips have managed to wear lower then the rest by a lot.
Here is a top view. See the 3 grips.

A view showing the depth

The depression is 2" long, the length of 3 grips.

A pattern in all the tires, the outside edge is wearing from turning I do believe. I do rotate the front to the back tire and on both sides. But I can see a trace of rubber on the road every time I turn much going down the road. I never studied this before this set of tires. Tandem tires just scrub in a turn.
Alignment was mentioned. I worked through this before these tires where installed. More here if you want to see this: TT axle alignment & install - Detailed (long lot's of pics)
I track the wear on these tires to see how even they are wearing by measuring tread depth across the face. I do not know how the tire industry does this but this was my method.

Here is the 2500 mile wear check. You can see the middles are wearing slightly more as I am running 65 psi and the tires are not fully loaded. I have more data but have not uploaded. As of today, I have no tire wearing issues other then what I believe is turn scrubbing. A TT can be aligned to be spot on.

I know I am buying 1 new tire, now I have to work through am I buying all 5 new and move on. And then what to buy? This situation was not to rear it's head until next year at tire life year 5.
What I am more wanting to do is learn what I did wrong if it did anything wrong.
More tomorrow.
Thanks
John
PS Capri-Racer, I will respond to your weight and tire comments on Monday, I'm out of time tonight but do want to respond. Thanks
Thanks for the comments, greatly appreciated as I sort through this.
I had to work today so I did not have as much time to create responses to all the good questions/comments. But I did check all 4 tires today to see if this bulging is starting on the other 3 tires.
Some big picture things. The tire make up Capri-Racer asked.

And the spare tire. This tire only had about 50 miles on it. I used it ounce when I had a right side tire valve leak. It has sat in my front cargo hole the rest of the time. I am using a dry wall square and the long blade is on the outside of the tire. This will show on every tire the same way so you know the outside. I'm using this as my control for tire roundness. This is at 65 psi

Here is some of the info to add and clarify as there may have been some misunderstanding on the good tire and the bulge tire. All tires have some kind of tread splits and fine side wall cracks.
Left rear tire: The problem bulged tire that started all this. I looked it all over today. There are some tread splits and side wall cracks. This tire has towed it's last for me. It will not leave the yard on the camper.
Here is the bulge

And 180 degrees from the bulge

Side wall cracks.

Tread splits
A problem are with 3 splits in one area.

close up - This is about 6" from the start of the bulge


more close up

The other close up

Now to the other 3 tires.
Left Front Tire:

Thread splits. There are 5 areas
Area 1

Area 2


Area 3

Area 4

Area 5

Now to the other side of the camper. Door side.
Right Rear Tire:

Tread Splits. There are 3 areas.
Area 1

Area 2

Area 3

Right Front Tire:

Tread Splits: There are 3 areas and a strange depression
Area 1 This must be a stone cut.

Area 2

Area 3

And now this strange depression right in the center. It is like 3 grips have managed to wear lower then the rest by a lot.
Here is a top view. See the 3 grips.

A view showing the depth

The depression is 2" long, the length of 3 grips.

A pattern in all the tires, the outside edge is wearing from turning I do believe. I do rotate the front to the back tire and on both sides. But I can see a trace of rubber on the road every time I turn much going down the road. I never studied this before this set of tires. Tandem tires just scrub in a turn.
Alignment was mentioned. I worked through this before these tires where installed. More here if you want to see this: TT axle alignment & install - Detailed (long lot's of pics)
I track the wear on these tires to see how even they are wearing by measuring tread depth across the face. I do not know how the tire industry does this but this was my method.

Here is the 2500 mile wear check. You can see the middles are wearing slightly more as I am running 65 psi and the tires are not fully loaded. I have more data but have not uploaded. As of today, I have no tire wearing issues other then what I believe is turn scrubbing. A TT can be aligned to be spot on.

I know I am buying 1 new tire, now I have to work through am I buying all 5 new and move on. And then what to buy? This situation was not to rear it's head until next year at tire life year 5.
What I am more wanting to do is learn what I did wrong if it did anything wrong.
More tomorrow.
Thanks
John
PS Capri-Racer, I will respond to your weight and tire comments on Monday, I'm out of time tonight but do want to respond. Thanks
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