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- bigfootfordNomad IIHere is what I did, 2 ea 100watt panels:
10 ga from each panel into Jbox. 10 ga for each panel into fridge rear access. Used electrical ground bar to combine panel power leads into 1 8ga wire each for + and - to my Solar controller. - AlmotExplorer IIISomething I don't understand with this V-drop calculators. The one in BFL link says "single set of conductors, one-way length". If we have 2 leads of the same length, all is good. And, in panel wires this is usually the case - same or close length of Pos and Neg from panel to controller.
But, lets consider Pos 30ft and Neg 1 ft - ex, you bolted Neg to the frame when doing some trailer wiring - not necessarily panels. Should we still use one-way length, and if so, which one - 30ft or 1 ft? :) - AlmotExplorer III
DAS26miles wrote:
Question, what are maximum amps and length for 10 and 12 awg with 5% loss for 12 volt ?
Can you use 12 awg directly from panels to branches 5 feet away and then use 10 awg to the controller?
Your max amps will be shown on the panel specs. For PWM controller - you didn't specify but I assume that it's PWM - you use panel Isc for amps. The "ampacity" of #10 wire - max amps it can conduct safely - is 30A, as I recall.
Use V-drop calculator separately for #12 pigtail and #10 extension cable, the one in my link or any other similar calculator. Add both V-drop numbers.
Yes, you can use #12 pigtail with #10 extension if total V-drop is within the norm. All panels come with #12 pigtail (if there is a pigtail), even big 280W panels.
You CAN have #8 extension cable if you have to. Unlimited Solar have it, good quality and reasonable cost. It's recommended to stay within 2-3% V-drop, but, like I said, PWM and MPPT have different requirements and you didn't say what controller. Or - what panel(s).
To avoid pains of thick cable, there is an option to go series connection and MPPT controller. Especially if total panels area is over 180W-200W. - BFL13Explorer IIThis one is very clear on one-way vs round trip
http://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html?material=copper&wiresize=2.061&voltage=12&phase=dc&noofconductor=1&distance=60&distanceunit=feet&eres=8&x=42&y=5 - AlmotExplorer III
CJW8 wrote:
Remember to use round trip length on the calculator length posted above.
Nope. A single trip length. There are other similar calculators to verify, most of them use single-trip. Compare Southwire (in my link) to the one in BFL link (this one does specify single-trip), both provide same results. - DAS26milesExplorer IIIt's going to be 5 feet from panel to fridge vent and branch, then another 15 to 20 feet to controller. So maybe 5 feet of 12 awg and the rest 10 awg
- DAS26milesExplorer IIQuestion, what are maximum amps and length for 10 and 12 awg with 5% loss for 12 volt ?
Can you use 12 awg directly from panels to branches 5 feet away and then use 10 awg to the controller? - CJW8ExplorerI think your wire is too small. Especially if you are going to use the whole 60 feet + the pig tails on your panel. Remember to use round trip length on the calculator length posted above.
- KRummExplorerHere is a relatively low impact installation (I assume he reinstalled the mesh after wiring)
I would have also wired the panels in series (No combiner box) and used lower 10 gauge wire... - Very small cut to direct the wire down.
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